From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>,
"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com, alan.cox@intel.com, "Gross,
Mark" <mark.gross@intel.com>,
Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] A new CPU load metric for power-efficient scheduler: CPU ConCurrency
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 11:57:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140425095729.GG26782@laptop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtDUdmf3gpTJAqf49Hddpv2h4XQffz1OLpuhjuRpKOU7jg@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:00:02AM +0200, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On 24 April 2014 21:30, Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com> wrote:
> > Hi Ingo, PeterZ, and others,
> >
> > The current scheduler's load balancing is completely work-conserving. In some
> > workload, generally low CPU utilization but immersed with CPU bursts of
> > transient tasks, migrating task to engage all available CPUs for
> > work-conserving can lead to significant overhead: cache locality loss,
> > idle/active HW state transitional latency and power, shallower idle state,
> > etc, which are both power and performance inefficient especially for today's
> > low power processors in mobile.
> >
> > This RFC introduces a sense of idleness-conserving into work-conserving (by
> > all means, we really don't want to be overwhelming in only one way). But to
> > what extent the idleness-conserving should be, bearing in mind that we don't
> > want to sacrifice performance? We first need a load/idleness indicator to that
> > end.
> >
> > Thanks to CFS's "model an ideal, precise multi-tasking CPU", tasks can be seen
> > as concurrently running (the tasks in the runqueue). So it is natural to use
> > task concurrency as load indicator. Having said that, we do two things:
> >
> > 1) Divide continuous time into periods of time, and average task concurrency
> > in period, for tolerating the transient bursts:
> > a = sum(concurrency * time) / period
> > 2) Exponentially decay past periods, and synthesize them all, for hysteresis
> > to load drops or resilience to load rises (let f be decaying factor, and a_x
> > the xth period average since period 0):
> > s = a_n + f^1 * a_n-1 + f^2 * a_n-2 +, .....,+ f^(n-1) * a_1 + f^n * a_0
>
> In the original version of entity load tracking patchset, there was a
> usage_avg_sum field that was counting the time the task was really
> running on the CPU. By combining this (disappeared ) field with the
> runnable_avg_sum, you should have similar concurrency value but with
> the current load tracking mechanism (instead of creating new one).
I'm not entire sure understood what was proposed, but I suspect its very
close to what I told you to do with the capacity muck. Use avg
utilization instead of 1 active task per core.
And yes, the current load tracking should be pretty close.
We just need to come up another way of doing SMT again, bloody
inconvenient SMT.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-25 9:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-24 19:30 Yuyang Du
2014-04-25 6:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-25 8:00 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-04-25 9:57 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-04-25 10:23 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-04-25 12:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-25 14:53 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-04-27 14:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-04-27 20:07 ` Yuyang Du
2014-04-28 15:22 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-04-28 19:26 ` Yuyang Du
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