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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	"mm-commits@vger.kernel.org" <mm-commits@vger.kernel.org>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"kay@vrfy.org" <kay@vrfy.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: + printk-print-initial-logbuf-contents-before-re-enabling-interrupts.patch added to -mm tree
Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 15:05:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140506150553.a12959fd71d83eddcb4b325d@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140506131234.GD30234@arm.com>

On Tue, 6 May 2014 14:12:34 +0100 Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> wrote:

> > > > My opinion is that when you are printing from each and every interrupt
> > > > which happens so often, then you have a problem and disabling IRQs in
> > > > printk so that your interrupt doesn't happen that often seems like a poor
> > > > solution to me. You could as well just ratelimit your debug messages,
> > > > couldn't you?
> > > 
> > > My use-case was basically using printk as a debug trace during early boot
> > > when bringing up Linux on a new CPU core. I don't think ratelimiting would
> > > be the right thing there, since I really did want as many messages to
> > > reach the console as possible (which is also why I wrote this patch, not
> > > just the other one in the series).
> >   OK, I understand. It just seems wrong to me to throttle all interrupts on
> > the cpu while doing printing just because someone might be doing debug
> > printing from the interrupt. Sure it's fine as a debug hack but on a
> > production machine that seems rather counterproductive.
> 
> Perhaps, but the one time I *really* want printk to be reliable is when I'm
> using it to debug a problem.

If you're debugging a problem, you're able to alter printk!  So perhaps
one way out of this is some developer-only ifdef to robustify printk
for particular usage patterns.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-06 22:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <53640c8c.5++0zeO0pmfqKMwm%akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2014-05-02 22:46 ` Jan Kara
2014-05-06 12:06   ` Will Deacon
2014-05-06 12:29     ` Jan Kara
2014-05-06 13:12       ` Will Deacon
2014-05-06 13:50         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-05-06 14:00         ` Jan Kara
2014-05-06 15:00           ` Will Deacon
2014-05-06 20:00             ` Jan Kara
2014-05-07  9:46               ` Will Deacon
2014-05-06 22:05         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2014-05-07  9:58           ` Will Deacon
2014-05-07 16:41             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-05-08 14:34               ` Will Deacon
2014-05-12 17:15                 ` Jan Kara

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