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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Li Zefan <lizefan@huawei.com>
Cc: cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.16] cgroup: iterate cgroup_subsys_states directly
Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 09:07:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140514130722.GE28815@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5372EF45.8060701@huawei.com>

Hello, Li.

On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:21:25PM +0800, Li Zefan wrote:
> > There are now use cases where controllers need to iterate through
> > csses regardless of their online state as long as they have positive
> 
> What use cases are we talking about here?

memcg wants to be able to iterate all csses whose refcnts haven't
reached zero yet so that it can treat offline csses the same way as
online ones in terms of memory reclaim.  They don't contain new tasks
so new charges won't be created but offlining won't try to transfer
all charges to the parent but just leave the offline child attached
until all charges are eventually reclaimed from the pressure from the
parent.

I'm not too familiar with the details but this makes sense in generic
sense too.  Offline marks an object starting its draining phase and
release marks the actual destruction point.  For controllers with
persistent states like memcg, it's a lot more natural to deal offlined
csses as "active but draining following the usual hierarchical
operation" rather than trying to explicitly update the states from
offline to move them to the parent especially as the effort there
essentially is a waste as most of those moved charges aren't gonna be
used in the parent and will be released eventually.

Guaranteeing iteration of offline but not-released csses allow
controllers to treat the draining stage between offline and release
more or less identically to online state which in turn can make
->css_offline() significantly simpler and lighter.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-14 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-09 21:31 Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 01/14] cgroup: remove css_parent() Tejun Heo
2014-05-11  1:47   ` David Miller
2014-05-11 13:02   ` Neil Horman
2014-05-12 13:16   ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-13 18:50   ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 02/14] cgroup: remove pointless has tasks/children test from mem_cgroup_force_empty() Tejun Heo
2014-05-12 14:53   ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-12 14:58     ` [PATCH] memcg: deprecate memory.force_empty knob Michal Hocko
2014-05-12 15:00       ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-12 15:20         ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-12 15:25           ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-12 15:34             ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-13 13:16               ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-13 15:09                 ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-12 14:59     ` [PATCH 02/14] cgroup: remove pointless has tasks/children test from mem_cgroup_force_empty() Tejun Heo
2014-05-12 15:21       ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-13 13:10     ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-13 16:46     ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-13 18:51     ` [PATCH UPDATED 02/14] memcg: remove " Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 03/14] memcg: update memcg_has_children() to use css_next_child() Tejun Heo
2014-05-12 15:18   ` Michal Hocko
2014-05-13 16:53   ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 04/14] device_cgroup: remove direct access to cgroup->children Tejun Heo
2014-05-13 12:56   ` Aristeu Rozanski
2014-05-14 12:52   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 05/14] cgroup: remove cgroup->parent Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 06/14] cgroup: move cgroup->sibling and ->children into cgroup_subsys_state Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 07/14] cgroup: link all cgroup_subsys_states in their sibling lists Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 08/14] cgroup: move cgroup->serial_nr into cgroup_subsys_state Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 09/14] cgroup: introduce CSS_RELEASED and reduce css iteration fallback window Tejun Heo
2014-05-16 16:07   ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 10/14] cgroup: iterate cgroup_subsys_states directly Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 11/14] cgroup: use CSS_ONLINE instead of CGRP_DEAD Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 12/14] cgroup: convert cgroup_has_live_children() into css_has_online_children() Tejun Heo
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 13/14] device_cgroup: use css_has_online_children() instead of has_children() Tejun Heo
2014-05-13 12:56   ` Aristeu Rozanski
2014-05-14 12:53   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2014-05-09 21:31 ` [PATCH 14/14] cgroup: implement css_tryget() Tejun Heo
2014-05-11  4:54   ` Johannes Weiner
2014-05-11 12:38     ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-16 16:07   ` [PATCH v2 " Tejun Heo
2014-05-13 16:59 ` [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.16] cgroup: iterate cgroup_subsys_states directly Tejun Heo
2014-05-14  4:21 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-14 13:07   ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2014-05-16  1:28     ` Li Zefan
2014-05-16  1:29 ` Li Zefan
2014-05-16 16:08 ` Tejun Heo

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