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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mingo@kernel.org" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"rjw@rjwysocki.net" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"vincent.guittot@linaro.org" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"daniel.lezcano@linaro.org" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	"preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <Dietmar.Eggemann@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 06/16] arm: topology: Define TC2 sched energy and provide it to scheduler
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 18:16:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140604161618.GQ30445@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140604154227.GR29593@e103034-lin>

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On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 04:42:27PM +0100, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 12:44:28PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 07:16:33PM +0100, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> > > +static struct capacity_state cap_states_cluster_a7[] = {
> > > +	/* Cluster only power */
> > > +	 { .cap =  358, .power = 2967, }, /*  350 MHz */
> > > +	 { .cap =  410, .power = 2792, }, /*  400 MHz */
> > > +	 { .cap =  512, .power = 2810, }, /*  500 MHz */
> > > +	 { .cap =  614, .power = 2815, }, /*  600 MHz */
> > > +	 { .cap =  717, .power = 2919, }, /*  700 MHz */
> > > +	 { .cap =  819, .power = 2847, }, /*  800 MHz */
> > > +	 { .cap =  922, .power = 3917, }, /*  900 MHz */
> > > +	 { .cap = 1024, .power = 4905, }, /* 1000 MHz */
> > > +	};
> > > +
> > > +static struct capacity_state cap_states_cluster_a15[] = {
> > > +	/* Cluster only power */
> > > +	 { .cap =  840, .power =  7920, }, /*  500 MHz */
> > > +	 { .cap = 1008, .power =  8165, }, /*  600 MHz */
> > > +	 { .cap = 1176, .power =  8172, }, /*  700 MHz */
> > > +	 { .cap = 1343, .power =  8195, }, /*  800 MHz */
> > > +	 { .cap = 1511, .power =  8265, }, /*  900 MHz */
> > > +	 { .cap = 1679, .power =  8446, }, /* 1000 MHz */
> > > +	 { .cap = 1847, .power = 11426, }, /* 1100 MHz */
> > > +	 { .cap = 2015, .power = 15200, }, /* 1200 MHz */
> > > +	};
> > 
> > 
> > So how did you obtain these numbers? Did you use numbers provided by the
> > hardware people, or did you run a particular benchmark and record the
> > power usage?
> >
> > Does that benchmark do some actual work (as opposed to a while(1) loop)
> > to keep more silicon lit up?
> 
> Hardware people don't like sharing data, so I did my own measurements
> and calculations to get the numbers above.
> 
> ARM TC2 has on-chip energy counters for counting energy consumed by the
> A7 and A15 clusters. They are fairly accurate. 

Recent Intel chips have that too; they come packaged as:

  perf stat -a -e "power/energy-cores/" -- cmd

(through the perf_event_intel_rapl.c driver), It would be ideal if the
ARM equivalent was available through a similar interface.

http://lwn.net/Articles/573602/

> I used sysbench cpu
> benchmark as test workload for the above numbers. sysbench might not be
> a representative workload, but it is easy to use. I think, ideally,
> vendors would run their own mix of workloads they care about and derrive
> their numbers for their platform based on that.
> 
> > If you have a setup for measuring these, should we try and publish that
> > too so that people can run it on their platform and provide these
> > numbers?
> 
> The workload setup I used quite simple. I ran sysbench with taskset with
> different numbers of threads to extrapolate power consumed by each
> individual cpu and how much comes from just powering on the domain.
> 
> Measuring the actual power is very platform specific. Developing a fully
> automated tool do it for any given platform isn't straigt forward, but
> I'm happy to share how I did it. I can add a description of the method I
> used on TC2 to the documentation so others can use it as reference.

That would be good I think, esp. if we can get similar perf based energy
measurement things sorted. And if we make the tool consume the machine
topology present in sysfs we can get a long way towards automating this
I think.



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  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-04 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-23 18:16 [RFC PATCH 00/16] sched: Energy cost model for energy-aware scheduling Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 01/16] sched: Documentation for scheduler energy cost model Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-05  8:49   ` Vincent Guittot
2014-06-05 11:35     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-05 15:02       ` Vincent Guittot
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 02/16] sched: Introduce CONFIG_SCHED_ENERGY Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-08  6:03   ` Henrik Austad
2014-06-09 10:20     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-10  9:39       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-10 10:06         ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-10 10:23           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-10 11:17             ` Henrik Austad
2014-06-10 12:19               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-10 11:24             ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-10 12:24               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-10 14:41                 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 03/16] sched: Introduce sd energy data structures Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 04/16] sched: Allocate and initialize sched energy Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 05/16] sched: Add sd energy procfs interface Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 06/16] arm: topology: Define TC2 sched energy and provide it to scheduler Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-30 12:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-02 14:15     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-03 11:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-04 13:49         ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-03 11:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-04 15:42     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-04 16:16       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-06-06 13:15         ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-06 13:43           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-06 14:29             ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-12 15:05               ` Vince Weaver
2014-06-03 11:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-04 16:02     ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-04 17:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-04 21:56         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-05  6:52           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-05 15:03             ` Dirk Brandewie
2014-06-05 20:29               ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-06  8:05                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-06  0:35                   ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-06 10:50                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-06 12:13                       ` Ingo Molnar
2014-06-06 12:27                         ` Ingo Molnar
2014-06-06 14:11                           ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-07  2:33                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-09  8:27                             ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-09 13:22                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-11 11:02                                 ` Eduardo Valentin
2014-06-11 11:42                                   ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-11 11:43                                     ` Eduardo Valentin
2014-06-11 13:37                                       ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-07 23:53                         ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-07 23:26                       ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-09  8:59                         ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-09  2:15                           ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-10 10:16                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-10 17:01                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-10 18:35                           ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-06 16:27                     ` Jacob Pan
2014-06-06 13:03         ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-07  2:52         ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 07/16] sched: Introduce system-wide sched_energy Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 08/16] sched: Introduce SD_SHARE_CAP_STATES sched_domain flag Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 09/16] sched, cpufreq: Introduce current cpu compute capacity into scheduler Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 10/16] sched, cpufreq: Current compute capacity hack for ARM TC2 Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 11/16] sched: Energy model functions Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 12/16] sched: Task wakeup tracking Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 13/16] sched: Take task wakeups into account in energy estimates Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 14/16] sched: Use energy model in select_idle_sibling Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 15/16] sched: Use energy to guide wakeup task placement Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 16/16] sched: Disable wake_affine to broaden the scope of wakeup target cpus Morten Rasmussen

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