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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Stuart Yoder <stuart.yoder@freescale.com>
Cc: Varun Sethi <Varun.Sethi@freescale.com>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org" 
	<linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <Pawel.Moll@arm.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk>,
	Grant Grundler <grundler@chromium.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier@arm.com>,
	Linux IOMMU <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@codeaurora.org>,
	"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
	Cho KyongHo <pullip.cho@samsung.com>,
	Dave P Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] devicetree: Add generic IOMMU device tree bindings
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:04:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140616170416.GA16758@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8b0492b4697943a0b1f276ef42cc8223@DM2PR03MB352.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Stuart,

On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:56:32PM +0100, Stuart Yoder wrote:
> > Do you have use-cases where you really need to change these mappings
> > dynamically?
> 
> Yes.  In the case of a PCI bus-- you may not know in advance how many
> PCI devices there are until you probe the bus.   We have another FSL
> proprietary bus we call the "fsl-mc" bus that is similar.

For that case, though, you could still describe an algorithmic
transformation from RequesterID to StreamID which corresponds to a fixed
mapping.

> Another thing to consider-- starting with SMMUv2, as you know, there
> is a new distributed architecture with multiple TBUs and a centralized
> TCU that walks the SMMU page tables.  So instead of sprinkling multiple
> SMMUs all over an SoC you now have the option a 1 central TCU and sprinkling
> multiple TBUs around.   However, this means that the stream ID namespace
> is now global and can be pretty limited.  In the SMMU implementation we 
> have there are only 64 stream ID total for our Soc.  But we have many more
> masters than that.
> 
> So we look at stream IDs as really corresponding to an 'isolation context'
> and not to a bus master.  An isolation context is the domain you are
> trying to isolate with the SMMU.  Devices that all belong to the same
> 'isolation context' can share the same stream ID, since they share
> the same domain and page tables.

Ok, this is more compelling.

> So, perhaps by default some/most SMMU masters may have a default stream ID
> of 0x0 that is used by the host...and that could be represented
> statically in the device tree.
> 
> But, we absolutely will need to dynamically set new stream IDs
> into masters when a new IOMMU 'domain' is created and devices
> are added to it.   All the devices in a domain will share
> the same stream ID.
> 
> So whatever we do, let's please have an architecture flexible enough
> to allow for this.

What is the software interface to the logic that assigns the StreamIDs? Is
it part of the SMMU, or a separate device (or set of devices)?

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-16 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1400877218-4113-1-git-send-email-thierry.reding@gmail.com>
2014-05-30 13:16 ` Rob Herring
2014-05-30 19:06   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-30 19:29     ` Hiroshi Doyu
2014-05-30 19:54       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-01  9:55         ` Will Deacon
2014-06-04 13:39           ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-04 13:44         ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-04 13:53           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-04 13:56           ` Will Deacon
2014-06-04 14:01             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-04 16:39               ` Will Deacon
2014-05-30 19:31     ` Rob Herring
2014-05-30 19:49       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 10:41         ` Dave Martin
2014-06-04 14:35           ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-04 16:41             ` Will Deacon
2014-06-04 21:00               ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-05 19:10               ` Varun Sethi
2014-06-16 15:27                 ` Will Deacon
2014-06-16 16:56                   ` Stuart Yoder
2014-06-16 17:04                     ` Will Deacon [this message]
2014-06-16 17:30                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-16 18:53                       ` Stuart Yoder
2014-06-17 10:26                         ` Varun Sethi
2014-06-17 10:43                           ` Will Deacon
2014-06-17 11:21                             ` Varun Sethi
2014-06-17 14:50                               ` Stuart Yoder
2014-06-18  9:29                                 ` Will Deacon
2014-06-17 14:39                           ` Stuart Yoder
2014-06-20 23:16     ` Olav Haugan
2014-06-24  9:18       ` Will Deacon
2014-06-24 17:57         ` Olav Haugan
2014-06-24 18:11           ` Will Deacon
2014-06-24 18:20             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-25  9:17               ` Will Deacon
2014-06-25  9:27                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-25  9:38                   ` Will Deacon
2014-06-25  9:48                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-25  9:57                       ` Will Deacon
2014-06-25 10:12                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-25 10:14                           ` Will Deacon
2014-06-24 21:35             ` Olav Haugan
2014-06-25  9:18               ` Will Deacon
2014-06-27 22:23                 ` Olav Haugan
2014-06-30  9:52                   ` Will Deacon
2014-07-09  1:07                     ` Olav Haugan
2014-07-09 10:54                       ` Will Deacon
2014-07-10 22:32                         ` Olav Haugan
2014-07-11 12:24                           ` Will Deacon
2014-06-06 22:45 Thierry Reding
2014-06-07 13:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-09 10:49   ` Thierry Reding
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-05-23 20:36 Thierry Reding
2014-05-29 15:52 ` Stephen Warren
2014-05-30  7:30   ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-30 11:27     ` Dave Martin
2014-05-30 19:11       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 10:56         ` Dave Martin
2014-06-04 21:12       ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-16 12:57         ` Will Deacon
2014-06-17 11:58           ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-17 12:18             ` Will Deacon
2014-06-17 23:37               ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-18 10:14                 ` Will Deacon
2014-06-20 15:53                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-20 17:50                     ` Will Deacon
2014-06-20 18:55                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-30 11:22 ` Dave Martin
2014-05-30 19:01   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-02 11:44     ` Dave Martin
2014-06-04 21:32     ` Thierry Reding
2014-06-05  9:42       ` Arnd Bergmann

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