From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] init: make rootdelay=N consistent with rootwait behaviour
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 15:20:20 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140617152020.f23032953c83b621ded3901e@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1401904895-18791-1-git-send-email-paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>
On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 14:01:35 -0400 Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com> wrote:
> Currently rootdelay=N and rootwait behave differently (aside
> from the obvious unbounded wait duration) because they are
> at different places in the init sequence.
>
> The difference manifests itself for md devices because the
> call to md_run_setup() lives between rootdelay and rootwait,
> so if you try to use rootdelay=20 to try and allow a slow
> RAID0 array to assemble, you get this:
>
> [ 4.526011] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk
> [ 22.972079] md: Waiting for all devices to be available before autodetect
>
> i.e. you've achieved nothing other than delaying the probing
> 20s, when what you wanted was a 20s delay _after_ the probing
> for md devices was initiated.
>
> Here we move the rootdelay code to be right beside the rootwait
> code, so that their behaviour is consistent.
>
> It should be noted that in doing so, the actions based on the
> saved_root_name[0] and initrd_load() were previously put on
> hold by rootdelay=N and now currently will not be delayed.
> However, I think consistent behaviour is more important than
> matching historical behaviour of delaying the above two operations.
hm. There may be good reasons for inserting a delay between scsi init
and MD init - give things time to settle down before MD starts playing
with the disks? And I think your patch takes away that option?
The kernel-parameters.txt documentation for these things is rather
vague. We have three distinct phases, I think?
a) scsi init
b) [md init]
c) root mount
It's not terribly clear where rootdelay and rootwait are operating and
I expect there are gaps in the implementation anyway.
Do you think it's worth cleaning and clearing all this up in some fashion?
The whole thing is a bit of an admission of failure anyway, isn't it?
Why should the kernel ever need to perform arbitrary dopey delays like
this? Are we working around unresolved underlying bugs?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-17 22:20 UTC|newest]
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2014-06-04 18:01 Paul Gortmaker
2014-06-17 22:20 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2014-06-23 14:33 ` Paul Gortmaker
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