From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
"mingo@kernel.org" <mingo@kernel.org>,
"rjw@rjwysocki.net" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
"vincent.guittot@linaro.org" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
"daniel.lezcano@linaro.org" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
"preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <Dietmar.Eggemann@arm.com>,
"pjt@google.com" <pjt@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFCv2 PATCH 00/23] sched: Energy cost model for energy-aware scheduling
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 17:42:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140707154230.GF19379@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140707135915.GA4485@e103687>
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On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 03:00:18PM +0100, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> > Could this be addressed by making the scheduler more "proactive" and,
> > rather than just looking at the current energy diff, guesstimate what it
> > would be if not placing a task at all on the CPU? If for example there
> > is no other task running on that CPU, could energy_diff_task() take into
> > account the next deeper C-state rather than just the current one? This
> > way we may be able to achieve more packing even on fully symmetric
> > systems and allow CPUs to go into deeper sleep states.
>
> I think it would be possible to bias the choice of cpu either by
> considering potential energy savings by letting some cpus get into a
> deeper C-state, or applying a static bias towards some cpus (lower cpuid
> for example). Since it is in the wakeup path it must not be too complex
> to figure out though.
>
> I haven't seen the problem in reality yet. When I tried the short tasks
> test with all cpus using the same energy model I got tasks consolidated
> on either of the clusters. The consolidation cluster sometimes changed
> during the test.
>
> There is a lot of tuning to be done, that is for sure. We will have to
> make similar decisions for the periodic/idle balance path as well.
So one of the things I mentioned previously (on IRC, to Morton) is that
we can use the energy numbers (P and C state) to precompute whether or
not race-to-idle makes sense for the platform. Or if it benefits from
packing etc..
So at topology setup time we can statically determine some of these
policies (maybe with a few parameters) and take it from there.
So if the platform benefits from packing, we can set the appropriate
topology bits to do so. If it benefits from race-to-idle, it can select
that, etc.
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Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-03 16:25 Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:25 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 01/23] sched: Documentation for scheduler energy cost model Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-24 0:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-24 7:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-24 14:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-24 17:57 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:25 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 02/23] sched: Make energy awareness a sched feature Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:25 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 03/23] sched: Introduce energy data structures Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:25 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 04/23] sched: Allocate and initialize " Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:25 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 05/23] sched: Add energy procfs interface Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:25 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 06/23] arm: topology: Define TC2 energy and provide it to the scheduler Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:25 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 07/23] sched: Introduce system-wide sched_energy Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:25 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 08/23] sched: Aggregate unweighted load contributed by task entities on parenting cfs_rq Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 23:50 ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-03 16:25 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 09/23] sched: Maintain the unweighted load contribution of blocked entities Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:25 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 10/23] sched: Account for blocked unweighted load waking back up Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:25 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 11/23] sched: Introduce an unweighted cpu_load array Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:25 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 12/23] sched: Rename weighted_cpuload() to cpu_load() Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:26 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 13/23] sched: Introduce weighted/unweighted switch in load related functions Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:26 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 14/23] sched: Introduce SD_SHARE_CAP_STATES sched_domain flag Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:26 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 15/23] sched, cpufreq: Introduce current cpu compute capacity into scheduler Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:26 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 16/23] sched, cpufreq: Current compute capacity hack for ARM TC2 Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:26 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 17/23] sched: Likely idle state statistics placeholder Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:26 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 18/23] sched: Energy model functions Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:26 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 19/23] sched: Task wakeup tracking Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:26 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 20/23] sched: Take task wakeups into account in energy estimates Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:26 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 21/23] sched: Use energy model in select_idle_sibling Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:26 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 22/23] sched: Use energy to guide wakeup task placement Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 16:26 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 23/23] sched: Use energy model in load balance path Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-03 23:19 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 00/23] sched: Energy cost model for energy-aware scheduling Yuyang Du
2014-07-04 11:06 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-04 16:03 ` Anca Emanuel
2014-07-06 19:05 ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-07 14:16 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-08 0:23 ` Yuyang Du
2014-07-08 9:28 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-04 16:55 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-07 14:00 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-07-07 15:42 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
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