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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	dipankar@in.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, josh@joshtriplett.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
	edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	oleg@redhat.com, bobby.prani@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 01/10] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks()
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 18:57:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140731165711.GB19379@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140731164739.GT11241@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

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On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 09:47:39AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:

> The idea here is to avoid having the kthread and to avoid providing
> callbacks, but to instead do the work currently done by the kthread
> in a synchronous function called by the updater?

yep.

> My concern with this approach is that I bet that Steven will want
> to have multiple concurrent calls to remove trampolines, and if I
> need to support that efficiently, I end up with more-painful counter
> tricks instead of the current callbacks.
> 
> Or am I confused about what you are suggesting?

Nope dont thing you are.

Typically things like ftrace are global and so we don't end up
with concurrency like that, but who knows, we'll have to wait for steve
to get back.

> > Now, if only task_work would work for kernel threads, then we could do
> > something far nicer...
> 
> OK, I'll bite...  What is task_work?  I am guessing that you are not
> talking about struct ql4_task_data in drivers/scsi/qla4xxx/ql4_def.h.  ;-)

kernel/task_work.c include/linux/task_work.h

its a worklet ran on return to userspace or exit -- ie. safe points for
our tasks.

problem of course is that kernel threads never do the userspace part and
typically do not do the exit thing either.

But the idea was, do the task scan, add a task_work to each that need
attention, have the work call complete and then wait for the completion.
Avoids the polling entirely.

If only kernel threads..

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-31 16:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-31  0:39 [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 0/10] RCU-tasks implementation Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39 ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 01/10] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks() Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 02/10] rcu: Provide cond_resched_rcu_qs() to force quiescent states in long loops Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 03/10] rcu: Add synchronous grace-period waiting for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 16:58     ` josh
2014-07-31 18:34       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 04/10] rcu: Export RCU-tasks APIs to GPL modules Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 16:56     ` josh
2014-07-31 20:55       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 05/10] rcutorture: Add torture tests for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 17:01     ` josh
2014-07-31 20:55       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 06/10] rcutorture: Add RCU-tasks test cases Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 07/10] rcu: Add stall-warning checks for RCU-tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 08/10] rcu: Improve RCU-tasks energy efficiency Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 09/10] documentation: Add verbiage on RCU-tasks stall warning messages Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  0:39   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 10/10] rcu: Make RCU-tasks track exiting tasks Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31  7:30   ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 01/10] rcu: Add call_rcu_tasks() Lai Jiangshan
2014-07-31 16:09     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 16:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-31 16:47         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 16:57           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2014-07-31 16:31       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-31 17:02         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 17:27           ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-31 17:44             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01  0:53       ` Lai Jiangshan
2014-08-01  2:09         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 15:53   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-08-01 18:19     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-08-01 18:36       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-31 16:19 ` [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 0/10] RCU-tasks implementation josh
2014-07-31 16:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-31 16:43     ` josh
2014-07-31 16:49     ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 16:58   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 17:20     ` josh
2014-07-31 18:38       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 20:58         ` josh
2014-07-31 21:11           ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-07-31 19:29 ` Andi Kleen
2014-07-31 21:08   ` Paul E. McKenney

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