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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH percpu/for-3.17 1/2] percpu: implement percpu_pool
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:23:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140801012301.GB1967@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140731181656.cf814c3d.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

Hello, Andrew.

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 06:16:56PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Yet nowhere in either the changelog or the code comments is it even
> mentioned that this allocator is unreliable and that callers *must*
> implement (and test!) fallback paths.

Hmmm, yeah, somehow the atomic behavior seemed obvious to me.  I'll
try to make it clear that this thing can and does fail.

> > an obvious solution is adding a failure
> > injection for debugging, but really except for being a bit ghetto,
> > this is just the atomic allocation for percpu areas.
> 
> If it was a try-GFP_ATOMIC-then-fall-back-to-pool thing then it would
> work fairly well.  But it's not even that - a caller could trivially
> chew through that pool in a single timeslice.  Especially on !SMP. 
> Especially squared with !PREEMPT or SCHED_FIFO.

Yeap, occassional pool depletion would be a normal thing to happen,
which isn't a correctness issue and most likely not even a performance
issue.

> But please make very sure that this is how we position it.  I don't
> know how to do this.  Maybe prefix the names with "blk_" to signify
> that it is block-private (and won't even be there if !CONFIG_BLOCK).
> 
> Or rename percpu_pool_alloc() to percpu_pool_try_alloc() - that should
> wake people up.

Sounds good to me.  I'll rename it to percpu_pool_try_alloc() and make
it clear in the comment that the allocation is opportunistic.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

      reply	other threads:[~2014-08-01  1:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-18 20:08 Tejun Heo
2014-07-18 20:08 ` [PATCH percpu/for-3.17 2/2] blk-throttle: replace custom async percpu alloc mechanism with percpu_pool Tejun Heo
2014-07-21 17:27   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-07-22  0:50     ` Tejun Heo
2014-07-22  0:51   ` Tejun Heo
2014-07-31 19:00 ` [PATCH percpu/for-3.17 1/2] percpu: implement percpu_pool Tejun Heo
2014-07-31 22:03 ` Andrew Morton
2014-08-01  0:44   ` Tejun Heo
2014-08-01  1:16     ` Andrew Morton
2014-08-01  1:23       ` Tejun Heo [this message]

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