From: Bill Fink <billfink@mindspring.com>
To: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"olaf@aepfle.de" <olaf@aepfle.de>,
Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"jasowang@redhat.com" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
"driverdev-devel@linuxdriverproject.org"
<driverdev-devel@linuxdriverproject.org>,
Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Shao <huishao@microsoft.com>,
"Yue Zhang (OSTC DEV)" <yuezha@microsoft.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Hyperv: Trigger DHCP renew after host hibernation
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 00:22:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140811002210.2a697052767e9ec1989cb219@mindspring.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53E83DD4.1060500@gmail.com>
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> Le 10/08/2014 20:23, Dexuan Cui a écrit :
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Greg KH [mailto:gregkh@linuxfoundation.org]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> IMO the most feasible and need-the-least-change solution may be:
> >>>>> the hyperv network VSC driver passes the event
> >>>>> RNDIS_STATUS_NETWORK_CHANGE to the udev daemon?
> >>>>>
> >>>> No, don't do that, again, act like any other network device, drop the
> >>>> link and bring it up when it comes back.
> >>>>
> >>> Hi Greg,
> >>> Do you mean tearing down the net device and re-creating it (by
> >>> register_netdev() and unregister_netdev)?
> >>
> >> No, don't you have link-detect for your network device? Toggle that, I
> >> thought patches to do this were posted a while ago...
> >>
> >> But if you really want to tear the whole network device down and then
> >> back up again, sure, that would also work.
> > Hi Greg, Stephen,
> >
> > Thanks for the comments!
> >
> > I suppose you meant the below logic:
> > if (refresh) {
> > rtnl_lock();
> > netif_carrier_off(net);
> > netif_carrier_on(net);
> > rtnl_unlock();
> > }
> >
> > We have discussed this in the previous mails of this thread itself:
> > e.g., http://marc.info/?l=linux-driver-devel&m=140593811715975&w=2
> >
> > Unluckily this logic doesn't work because the user-space daemons
> > like ifplugd, usually don't renew the DHCP immediately as long as they
> > receive a link-down message: they usually wait for some seconds and if
> > they find the link becomes up soon, they won't trigger renew operations.
> > (I guess this behavior can be somewhat reasonable: maybe the daemons
> > try to not trigger DHCP renew on temporary link instability)
>
> Is that such a big deal? If you know you spend much of your time in
> ifplugd, why not use something different that triggers a DHCP renewal
> faster, or fix ifplugd?
In the case of ifplugd, it has parameters -u | --delay-up= which
defaults to 0 seconds, and -d | --delay-down= which defaults to
5 seconds. Maybe for hyperv you could specify --delay-down=0.
I don't know if other daemons such as systemd have similar options.
It might still be good to have some modest delay between the
netif_carrier_off(net) and netif_carrier_on(net).
-Bill
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-08-11 4:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-18 10:55 Yue Zhang
2014-07-18 10:13 ` Varka Bhadram
2014-07-21 2:45 ` Yue Zhang (OSTC DEV)
2014-07-18 13:40 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-07-21 2:44 ` Yue Zhang (OSTC DEV)
2014-07-21 6:55 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-07-21 8:05 ` Yue Zhang (OSTC DEV)
2014-07-21 8:17 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-07-21 8:44 ` Yue Zhang (OSTC DEV)
2014-07-21 9:01 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-07-21 9:18 ` Olaf Hering
2014-07-21 21:32 ` David Miller
2014-08-07 22:37 ` Richard Weinberger
2014-08-08 3:13 ` Dexuan Cui
2014-08-08 3:32 ` Greg KH
2014-08-08 8:11 ` Dexuan Cui
2014-08-08 13:45 ` Greg KH
2014-08-11 3:23 ` Dexuan Cui
2014-08-11 3:51 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-08-11 4:22 ` Bill Fink [this message]
2014-08-12 7:51 ` Dexuan Cui
2014-08-12 7:48 ` Dexuan Cui
2014-08-11 10:45 ` Tom Gundersen
2014-08-12 8:29 ` Dexuan Cui
2014-08-13 13:15 ` Tom Gundersen
2014-08-13 13:34 ` Dan Williams
2014-08-14 5:19 ` Dexuan Cui
2014-08-11 3:29 ` Dexuan Cui
2014-07-21 9:42 ` Tom Gundersen
2014-07-21 10:21 ` Yue Zhang (OSTC DEV)
2014-07-21 13:11 ` Lennart Poettering
2014-07-21 17:17 ` Dan Williams
2014-07-21 14:06 ` Tom Gundersen
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