From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752268AbaHMI2R (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Aug 2014 04:28:17 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([198.137.202.9]:50021 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751919AbaHMI2N (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 Aug 2014 04:28:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:27:56 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E5ns_Rullg=E5rd?= Cc: Steven Rostedt , Christopher Barry , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: OT: Open letter to the Linux World Message-ID: <20140813082756.GB2923@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20140812153812.2923046a@monolith.infinux.org> <20140812202129.GA20344@home.goodmis.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2012-12-30) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:07:05PM +0100, M=E5ns Rullg=E5rd wrote: > Steven Rostedt writes: >=20 > > Nice rant, I sympathize with you (just complaining about this on G+). >=20 > Made my day. >=20 > > I'm just waiting for Linus to get pissed enough to write his own init > > routine. Maybe he'll call it "Boot Init Through Computer Hardware". >=20 > The trouble is that most of the heavy-weight kernel developers don't > seem to care at all about what goes on in userspace. Well, I know for a fact that quite a number do; but so far most people who care have been able to steer clear of this trainwreck so we did. I'm about to switch all my machines to Gentoo (from Debian) because that will indeed allow you to build a distro without much of this nonsense in -- because as has been eloquently said; you simply don't need this fucking shite to run a 'normal' machine. And the thing is; we're all very busy so we tend to take the 'easy' way out for things like this; but wholesale switching all my machines is indeed painful, and I'm not liking. --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJT6yGMAAoJEHZH4aRLwOS6vGcP/30GpOfN5l7ykldBF0NrWeWJ jxbImUfVDAdhiWWLnGAwdOCBWJhkA3RxVjNyadWcSvJjpedXDJ5XDhIOVuH/4K7A YtZ/HN9W+s+J8qWt1tuHgHWf74+WlaK6PqzmM8Ght43wISBjIac8nPi1NfqrZu2e SxxYRuFYK+DPKjPqwPCDQrEFzqFO51n7jJVWg/wNPovqriCrUIFLKbckGVX4HSsH RSUpGdYiGeSZJDurZnXJfxj+sivx7vTaI3QH8psUzLwo7L8ODHyR1EbT6bDNRHEi OYalUeNmcoQ1r2hdCWjB1hFxtgcaGVcPiFGAMH1hjh4E2NDwLY24UH0MxHT2pzyp eA0ttZh7sgV9ZwGl9BXFDbKGXnsFCaIoliQ3w9ZDDNg9ecq0fJFNDEtd2LBpA7vV sKUqkinzXYPql9NpX3bjx6PR0oNCwupau719AVsVcN/BeW/XVaaiMWwWRaZQAg78 F7ksWq0dQlnROmExddvZJPimezeVGQS2QzDCXj5Qu2TlJx1leOQ8ybkgWGSM9N0y q3j4/arFtRJgLPrIYh0yP/4SYSd1qoV5qa08jDmgUoSijTltuTkBCBKFIeBfQfHS e1XOhkRf9TxPuMEdEjTAcTuUpSdc88R0Ga55j2Xv2zSOPMhY98sLizxFJnzlV40M EJPZ5tMfW1q+LbZZKdCp =INdq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv--