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From: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung.kim@lge.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Arun Sharma <asharma@fb.com>,
	Rodrigo Campos <rodrigo@sdfg.com.ar>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] perf callchain: Prune misleading callchains for self entries
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 13:31:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140818113147.GA5117@krava.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1408155991.1672.4.camel@leonhard>

On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 11:26:31AM +0900, Namhyung Kim wrote:

SNIP

> > 
> > hum, where is it callee/caller mixed?  with following example:
> > 
> > ---
> > void c(void)
> > {
> > }
> > 
> > void b(void)
> > {
> >         c();
> > }
> > 
> > void a(void)
> > {
> >         b();
> > }
> > 
> > int main(void)
> > {
> >         while(1) {
> >                 a();
> >                 b();
> >                 c();
> >         }
> > }
> > ---
> > 
> > for 'c' the current code will display:
> > 
> > -   43.74%    43.74%  t        t                 [.] c                                                                                    ▒
> >    - __libc_start_main                                                                                                                    ▒
> >       - 86.33% main                                                                                                                       ▒
> >            67.08% c                                                                                                                       ▒
> >          - 32.91% a                                                                                                                       ▒
> >               99.44% c                                                                                                                    ▒
> >             - 0.56% b                                                                                                                     ▒
> >                  c                                                                                                                        ▒
> >         13.67% c                                                                                                                          ▒
> > 
> > and with this patch:
> > 
> > -   43.74%    43.74%  t        t                 [.] c                                                                                    ▒
> >      c                                                                                                                                    ▒
> > 
> > 
> > The 'c' callchain is still in caller order. IMO we should
> > keep whole callchain here.
> 
> The problem is not in pure self entry (that has self overhead = children
> overhead) and pure cumulative entry (self overhead = 0).  It's in mixed
> entries, please see last two examples in the description 0/3.

right, but it still affects pure entries as well
anyway, let's see the mixed entry

for 'a' the current code will display:
-   31.97%    17.16%  t        t                  [.] a                                                        ▒
   - __libc_start_main                                                                                         ◆
        81.08% a                                                                                               ▒
      - 18.92% main                                                                                            ▒
           a                                                                                                   ▒
   - a                                                                                                         ▒
        85.05% c                                                                                               ▒
      - 14.91% b                                                                                               ▒
           100.00% c                                                                                           ▒

and with this patch:
-   31.97%    17.16%  t        t                  [.] a                                                        ▒
   - a                                                                                                         ▒
        85.05% c                                                                                               ▒
      - 14.91% b                                                                                               ▒
           100.00% c                                                                                           ▒

so we'll miss the 'self' callchain of 'a' symbol

if we want to avoid the confusion about 2 different callchains, how
about marking them with 'self' and 'children' tags, instead of removing
one of them, like:

for 'a' the current code will display:
-   31.97%    17.16%  t        t                  [.] a                                                        ▒
   - [self]
     __libc_start_main                                                                                         ◆
        81.08% a                                                                                               ▒
      - 18.92% main                                                                                            ▒
           a                                                                                                   ▒
   - [children]
     a                                                                                                         ▒
        85.05% c                                                                                               ▒
      - 14.91% b                                                                                               ▒
           100.00% c                                                                                           ▒


jirka

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-18 11:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-14  6:01 [RFC/PATCHSET 0/3] perf tools: Callchain improvement with --children and -g caller Namhyung Kim
2014-08-14  6:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] perf report: Relax -g option parsing not to limit the option order Namhyung Kim
2014-08-18  8:22   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Namhyung Kim
2014-08-14  6:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] perf tools: Put callers above callee when callchain order is caller Namhyung Kim
2014-08-14  6:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] perf callchain: Prune misleading callchains for self entries Namhyung Kim
2014-08-14 14:10   ` Jiri Olsa
2014-08-15  1:57     ` Namhyung Kim
2014-08-15 19:51       ` Jiri Olsa
2014-08-16  2:26         ` Namhyung Kim
2014-08-18 11:31           ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2014-08-19  5:51             ` Namhyung Kim
2014-08-19  7:10               ` Jiri Olsa
2014-08-19  8:20                 ` Namhyung Kim
2014-08-15 13:52 ` [RFC/PATCHSET 0/3] perf tools: Callchain improvement with --children and -g caller Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

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