From: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexander Yarygin <yarygin@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung.kim@lge.com>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] perf tools: Add option to copy events when queueing
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 08:50:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141003065047.GN9764@krava.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141003043421.GA24217@gmail.com>
On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 06:34:21AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Alexander Yarygin <yarygin@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > When processing events the session code has an ordered samples
> > queue which is used to time-sort events coming in across
> > multiple mmaps. At a later point in time samples on the queue
> > are flushed up to some timestamp at which point the event is
> > actually processed.
> >
> > When analyzing events live (ie., record/analysis path in the
> > same command) there is a race that leads to corrupted events
> > and parse errors which cause perf to terminate. The problem is
> > that when the event is placed in the ordered samples queue it
> > is only a reference to the event which is really sitting in the
> > mmap buffer. Even though the event is queued for later
> > processing the mmap tail pointer is updated which indicates to
> > the kernel that the event has been processed. The race is
> > flushing the event from the queue before it gets overwritten by
> > some other event. For commands trying to process events live
> > (versus just writing to a file) and processing a high rate of
> > events this leads to parse failures and perf terminates.
> >
> > Examples hitting this problem are 'perf kvm stat live',
> > especially with nested VMs which generate 100,000+ traces per
> > second, and a command processing scheduling events with a high
> > rate of context switching -- e.g., running 'perf bench sched
> > pipe'.
> >
> > This patch offers live commands an option to copy the event
> > when it is placed in the ordered samples queue.
>
> What's the performance effect of this - i.e. by how much does CPU
> use increase due to copying the events?
>
> Wouldn't it be faster to fix this problem by updating the mmap
> tail pointer only once the event has truly been consumed?
Alexander mentioned he'd loose data, because of userspace processing
being to slow:
http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=141111652424818&w=2
jirka
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-03 6:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-02 16:38 [PATCH v3 0/2] perf kvm stat live: Copy events Alexander Yarygin
2014-10-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 1/2] perf tools: Add option to copy events when queueing Alexander Yarygin
2014-10-03 4:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-10-03 6:50 ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2014-10-03 8:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-10-03 14:25 ` Alexander Yarygin
2014-10-03 7:33 ` Jiri Olsa
2014-10-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 2/2] perf kvm stat live: Enable events copying Alexander Yarygin
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-10-03 14:40 [PATCH v4 0/2] perf kvm stat live: Copy events Alexander Yarygin
2014-10-03 14:40 ` [PATCH 1/2] perf tools: Add option to copy events when queueing Alexander Yarygin
2014-10-02 10:32 [PATCH v2 0/2] perf kvm stat live: Copy events Alexander Yarygin
2014-10-02 10:32 ` [PATCH 1/2] perf tools: Add option to copy events when queueing Alexander Yarygin
2014-10-02 14:15 ` Jiri Olsa
2014-10-02 15:21 ` Alexander Yarygin
2014-10-02 15:33 ` Jiri Olsa
2014-10-02 15:45 ` David Ahern
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