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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	dave@sr71.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, eranian@google.com,
	x86@kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	Vitaly Mayatskikh <v.mayatskih@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86: Only do a single page fault for copy_from_user_nmi
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 01:25:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141003232536.GG12538@two.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141003045359.GA24281@gmail.com>

> There are cleaner ways to solve this problem - PeterZ offered 
> one, but there are other options as well, such as:
> 
>  - removing exact-bytes semantics explicitly from almost all 
>    cases and offering a separate (and more expensive, in the 
>    faulting case) memcpy variant for write() and other code that 
>    absolutely must know the number of copied bytes.

That would be a full tree audit of thousands of calls.
And any mistake would be a security hole.

>  - or adding a special no-bytes-copied memcpy variant that the 
>    NMI code could use.

That's the duplicated copy path I mentioned. If people really want that
I can implement it, although I personally think it's ugly and bloated
over engineering for this case.

> It might be more work for you, but it gives us a cleaner and more 
> maintainable kernel. The problem is that you should know this 
> general principle already, instead you are wasting maintainer 
> bandwidth via arguing in favor of ugly hacks again and again...

The duplicated path is unlikely to be more maintainable 
than the simple and obvious check.

-Andi

      reply	other threads:[~2014-10-03 23:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-26 23:31 Optimize backtrace code for perf PMI handler Andi Kleen
2014-09-26 23:31 ` [PATCH 1/2] Use faster check for modules in backtrace on 64bit Andi Kleen
2014-09-29 11:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-29 15:21     ` Andi Kleen
2014-09-29 20:30       ` Andi Kleen
2014-09-30  8:58         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-30 20:10           ` Andi Kleen
2014-10-02 10:57             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-10-03 23:20               ` Andi Kleen
2014-09-26 23:31 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86: Only do a single page fault for copy_from_user_nmi Andi Kleen
2014-09-29 11:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-09-29 15:26     ` Andi Kleen
2014-10-03  4:53       ` Ingo Molnar
2014-10-03 23:25         ` Andi Kleen [this message]

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