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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Daniel Thompson <daniel.thompson@linaro.org>
Cc: Daniel Drake <drake@endlessm.com>,
	linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org, patches@linaro.org,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3.17-rc4 v7 0/6] arm: Implement arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 13:23:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141016122322.GO27405@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <543F8EA8.6080905@linaro.org>

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:23:52AM +0100, Daniel Thompson wrote:
> On 14/10/14 23:37, Daniel Drake wrote:
> > I'm testing your patches on Exynos4412 and I guess in their current
> > state they don't go quite this deep, as the only callers of
> > trigger_all_cpu_backtrace() are sysrq, hung_task and spinlock debug
> > code - none of which seem as fail-safe as a trigger like a
> > pre-programmed watchdog NMI interrupt would be.
> > 
> > Do I need to find a way to get CONFIG_FIQ available on this platform
> > first? and/or CONFIG_HARDLOCKUP_DETECTOR?
> 
> You need CONFIG_FIQ working first. Be aware that this may be impossible
> on Exynos unless you control the TrustZone. For this reason most of my
> development is on Freescale i.MX6 (because i.MX6 boots in secure mode).

CONFIG_FIQ enables the legacy FIQ code which is unsuitable for use on
SMP, so that should not be a requirement.

We still need to validate all the code we're proposing to run in FIQ
context does not violate any locking.  IRQ-safe locks will do not
prevent FIQs occuring, and using IRQ-safe locks which are also taken
in the FIQ path /will/ cause deadlocks.  So, we need to ensure that
the perf internals are safe for this.

Lastly, platforms running in non-secure mode most likely will not be
able to take /any/ advantage from the FIQ stuff because FIQs will 
likely only be available to the secure firmware.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-16 12:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-17 16:10 Daniel Thompson
2014-09-17 16:10 ` [PATCH 3.17-rc4 v7 1/6] ARM: remove unused do_unexp_fiq() function Daniel Thompson
2014-09-17 16:10 ` [PATCH 3.17-rc4 v7 2/6] arm: fiq: Replace default FIQ handler Daniel Thompson
2014-09-17 16:10 ` [PATCH 3.17-rc4 v7 3/6] arm64: Introduce dummy version of asm/fiq.h Daniel Thompson
2014-09-22  9:16   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-17 16:10 ` [PATCH 3.17-rc4 v7 4/6] irqchip: gic: Add support for IPI FIQ Daniel Thompson
2014-09-17 18:51   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-17 20:12     ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-17 21:07       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-18  7:48         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-18 21:46     ` Marc Zyngier
2014-09-18  8:17   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-18 21:20     ` Daniel Thompson
2014-09-17 16:10 ` [PATCH 3.17-rc4 v7 5/6] ARM: add basic support for on-demand backtrace of other CPUs Daniel Thompson
2014-09-17 16:10 ` [PATCH 3.17-rc4 v7 6/6] arm: smp: Handle ipi_cpu_backtrace() using FIQ (if available) Daniel Thompson
2014-10-14 22:37 ` [PATCH 3.17-rc4 v7 0/6] arm: Implement arch_trigger_all_cpu_backtrace Daniel Drake
2014-10-14 23:31   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-10-16  9:33     ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-04 17:05       ` Daniel Thompson
2014-11-04 17:19         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-10-16  9:23   ` Daniel Thompson
2014-10-16 12:23     ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2014-10-16 13:15       ` Daniel Thompson

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