From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: Seth Jennings <sjenning@redhat.com>,
Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
live-patching@vger.kernel.org, kpatch@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] kernel: add support for live patching
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 07:22:03 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141107132203.GE4071@treble.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1411071405170.29198@pobox.suse.cz>
On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 02:13:37PM +0100, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
>
> > > Also, lpc_create_object(), lpc_create_func(), lpc_create_patch(),
> > > lpc_create_objects(), lpc_create_funcs(), ... they all are pretty much
> > > alike, and are asking for some kind of unification ... perhaps iterator
> > > for generic structure initialization?
> >
> > The allocation and initialization code is very simple and
> > straightforward. I really don't see a problem there.
>
> This really boils down to the question I had in previous mail, whether
> three-level hierarchy (patch->object->funcs), which is why there is a lot
> of very alike initialization code, is not a bit over-designed.
Oh sorry, I missed that point :-) See below.
>
> > > I am not also really fully convinced that we need the
> > > patch->object->funcs abstraction hierarchy (which also contributes to
> > > the structure allocation being rather a spaghetti copy/paste code) ...
> > > wouldn't patch->funcs be suffcient, with the "object" being made just
> > > a property of the function, for example?
The patched object represents the module being patched (or "vmlinux").
It is much more than a property of the function. Multiple functions can
be patched in the same object. There are several things we do on a
per-object basis, including try_module_get(), deferred module patching
(patching from the module notifier), and dynamic relocations.
> > >
> > > > Plus, I show that kernel/kgraft.c + kernel/kgraft_files.c is
> > > > 906+193=1099. I'd say they are about the same size :)
> > >
> > > Which is still seem to me to be a ratio worth thinking about improving
> > > :)
> >
> > Yes, this code doesn't have a consistency model, but it does have some
> > other non-kGraft things like dynamic relocations,
>
> BTW we need to put those into arch/x86/ as they are unfortunately not
> generic. But more on this later independently.
>
> > deferred module patching,
>
> FWIW kgraft supports that as well.
>
> > and a unified API. There's really no point in comparing lines of code.
>
> Oh, sure, I didn't mean that this is any kind of metrics that should be
> taken too seriously at all. I was just expressing my surprise that
> unification of the API would bring so much code that it makes the result
> comparably sized to "the whole thing" :)
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Jiri Kosina
> SUSE Labs
--
Josh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-07 13:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-06 14:39 [PATCH 0/2] Kernel Live Patching Seth Jennings
2014-11-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 1/2] kernel: add TAINT_LIVEPATCH Seth Jennings
2014-11-09 20:19 ` Greg KH
2014-11-11 14:54 ` Seth Jennings
2014-11-06 14:39 ` [PATCH 2/2] kernel: add support for live patching Seth Jennings
2014-11-06 15:11 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-11-06 16:20 ` Seth Jennings
2014-11-06 16:32 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-06 18:00 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2014-11-06 22:20 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-11-07 12:50 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-07 13:13 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-11-07 13:22 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2014-11-07 14:57 ` Seth Jennings
2014-11-06 15:51 ` Jiri Slaby
2014-11-06 16:57 ` Seth Jennings
2014-11-06 17:12 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-07 18:21 ` Petr Mladek
2014-11-07 20:31 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-30 12:23 ` Pavel Machek
2014-12-01 16:49 ` Seth Jennings
2014-11-06 20:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-11-06 20:19 ` Seth Jennings
2014-11-07 17:13 ` module notifier: was " Petr Mladek
2014-11-07 18:07 ` Seth Jennings
2014-11-07 18:40 ` Petr Mladek
2014-11-07 18:55 ` Seth Jennings
2014-11-11 19:40 ` Seth Jennings
2014-11-11 22:17 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-11-11 22:48 ` Seth Jennings
2014-11-07 17:39 ` more patches for the same func: " Petr Mladek
2014-11-07 21:54 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-07 19:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-07 19:42 ` Seth Jennings
2014-11-07 19:52 ` Seth Jennings
2014-11-10 10:08 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-11-10 17:31 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-13 10:16 ` Miroslav Benes
2014-11-13 14:38 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-13 17:12 ` Seth Jennings
2014-11-14 13:30 ` Miroslav Benes
2014-11-14 14:52 ` Petr Mladek
2014-11-06 18:44 ` [PATCH 0/2] Kernel Live Patching Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-06 18:51 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2014-11-06 18:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-06 19:34 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-06 19:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-11-06 20:02 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-07 7:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-07 7:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-06 20:24 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2014-11-07 7:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-11-07 13:11 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-07 14:04 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2014-11-07 15:45 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-07 21:27 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2014-11-08 3:45 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-08 8:07 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2014-11-10 17:09 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-11 9:05 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2014-11-11 17:45 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-11 1:24 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-11 10:26 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2014-11-12 17:33 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-12 21:47 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2014-11-13 15:56 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-11-13 16:38 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2014-11-18 12:47 ` Petr Mladek
2014-11-18 18:58 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-07 12:31 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-07 12:48 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2014-11-07 13:06 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2014-11-09 20:16 ` Greg KH
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