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From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
To: Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Robert Richter <rric@kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	kan.liang@intel.com, adrian.hunter@intel.com,
	markus.t.metzger@intel.com, mathieu.poirier@linaro.org,
	acme@infradead.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <michaele@au1.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 02/14] perf: Add AUX area to ring buffer for raw data streams
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:45:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141117214518.GD10824@tassilo.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141117212400.GB13111@us.ibm.com>

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 01:24:00PM -0800, Sukadev Bhattiprolu wrote:
> Alexander Shishkin [alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com] wrote:
> | From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> | 
> | This patch introduces "AUX space" in the perf mmap buffer, intended for
> | exporting high bandwidth data streams to userspace, such as instruction
> | flow traces.
> | 
> | AUX space is a ring buffer, defined by aux_{offset,size} fields in the
> | user_page structure, and read/write pointers aux_{head,tail}, which abide
> | by the same rules as data_* counterparts of the main perf buffer.
> 
> The "format" of this raw stream of data can differ across processors
> (and architecutres) correct ? i.e the perf tool processing of this
> aux data will also differ across processors ?

Yes.

The main caveat is that you need special handling code in perf.

> 
> Power8 processors support what we call 24x7 counters that collect info
> on a large number of events. The current 24x7 support in
> (arch/powerpc/perf/hv-24x7.c) currently uses reading one counter at a
> time using the pmu->read() interface.
> 
> We are looking for ways to export much larger number of counters through
> one pmu->read() or another call. I am trying to see if the hv-24x7 pmu
> could use this aux interface and then have/implement a helper in perf
> tool to extract the counter values.

It's probably only worth it if your amount of data is extremely
high and has to be to compressed (like in PT -- no choice, cannot do it
otherwise)

If your data amounts are more reasonable it will be a lot
simpler to stay with the current perf interfaces, even
though they have a bit higher overhead.

-Andi

-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-17 21:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-14 13:43 [PATCH v8 00/14] perf: Add infrastructure and support for Intel PT Alexander Shishkin
2014-11-14 13:43 ` [PATCH v8 01/14] perf: Add data_{offset,size} to user_page Alexander Shishkin
2014-11-14 13:43 ` [PATCH v8 02/14] perf: Add AUX area to ring buffer for raw data streams Alexander Shishkin
2014-11-17  9:33   ` Metzger, Markus T
2015-01-09 15:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-12 13:12       ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-01-12 13:38         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-12 14:00           ` Alexander Shishkin
2014-11-17 21:24   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2014-11-17 21:45     ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2014-11-14 13:43 ` [PATCH v8 03/14] perf: Support high-order allocations for AUX space Alexander Shishkin
2014-11-14 13:43 ` [PATCH v8 04/14] perf: Add a capability for AUX_NO_SG pmus to do software double buffering Alexander Shishkin
2014-11-14 13:43 ` [PATCH v8 05/14] perf: Add a pmu capability for "exclusive" events Alexander Shishkin
2014-11-14 13:43 ` [PATCH v8 06/14] perf: Add AUX record Alexander Shishkin
2014-11-14 13:43 ` [PATCH v8 07/14] perf: Add api for pmus to write to AUX area Alexander Shishkin
2014-11-14 13:43 ` [PATCH v8 08/14] perf: Support overwrite mode for " Alexander Shishkin
2014-11-14 13:43 ` [PATCH v8 09/14] perf: Add wakeup watermark control to " Alexander Shishkin
2014-11-14 13:43 ` [PATCH v8 10/14] x86: Add Intel Processor Trace (INTEL_PT) cpu feature detection Alexander Shishkin
2014-11-14 13:43 ` [PATCH v8 11/14] x86: perf: Intel PT and LBR/BTS are mutually exclusive Alexander Shishkin
2014-11-14 13:43 ` [PATCH v8 12/14] x86: perf: intel_pt: Intel PT PMU driver Alexander Shishkin
2015-01-09 12:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-12 12:19     ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-01-13 15:09     ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-01-13 16:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-09 13:10   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-12 12:45     ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-01-09 14:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-12 12:53     ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-01-12 16:37     ` Alexander Shishkin
2015-01-12 16:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-11-14 13:43 ` [PATCH v8 13/14] x86: perf: intel_bts: Add BTS " Alexander Shishkin
2014-11-14 13:43 ` [PATCH v8 14/14] perf: add ITRACE_START record to indicate that tracing has started Alexander Shishkin
2015-01-09 14:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-09 14:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-12  9:30       ` Adrian Hunter
2014-12-17 14:06 ` [PATCH v8 00/14] perf: Add infrastructure and support for Intel PT Alexander Shishkin
2015-01-07  9:32   ` Alexander Shishkin

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