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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com>
To: David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>
Cc: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dbueso@suse.de>, Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Olaf Hering <ohering@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xen: privcmd: schedule() after private hypercall when non CONFIG_PREEMPT
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 17:19:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141201161905.GH25677@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <547C8F30.1010306@citrix.com>

On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 03:54:24PM +0000, David Vrabel wrote:
> On 01/12/14 15:44, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:18 AM, David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com> wrote:
> >> On 01/12/14 15:05, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 11:11:43AM +0000, David Vrabel wrote:
> >>>> On 27/11/14 18:36, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 07:36:31AM +0100, Juergen Gross wrote:
> >>>>>> On 11/26/2014 11:26 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> >>>>>>> From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Some folks had reported that some xen hypercalls take a long time
> >>>>>>> to complete when issued from the userspace private ioctl mechanism,
> >>>>>>> this can happen for instance with some hypercalls that have many
> >>>>>>> sub-operations, this can happen for instance on hypercalls that use
> >>>> [...]
> >>>>>>> --- a/drivers/xen/privcmd.c
> >>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/xen/privcmd.c
> >>>>>>> @@ -60,6 +60,9 @@ static long privcmd_ioctl_hypercall(void __user *udata)
> >>>>>>>                              hypercall.arg[0], hypercall.arg[1],
> >>>>>>>                              hypercall.arg[2], hypercall.arg[3],
> >>>>>>>                              hypercall.arg[4]);
> >>>>>>> +#ifndef CONFIG_PREEMPT
> >>>>>>> + schedule();
> >>>>>>> +#endif
> >>>>
> >>>> As Juergen points out, this does nothing.  You need to schedule while in
> >>>> the middle of the hypercall.
> >>>>
> >>>> Remember that Xen's hypercall preemption only preempts the hypercall to
> >>>> run interrupts in the guest.
> >>>
> >>> How is it ensured that when the kernel preempts on this code path on
> >>> CONFIG_PREEMPT=n kernel that only interrupts in the guest are run?
> >>
> >> Sorry, I really didn't describe this very well.
> >>
> >> If a hypercall needs a continuation, Xen returns to the guest with the
> >> IP set to the hypercall instruction, and on the way back to the guest
> >> Xen may schedule a different VCPU or it will do any upcalls (as per normal).
> >>
> >> The guest is free to return from the upcall to the original task
> >> (continuing the hypercall) or to a different one.
> > 
> > OK so that addresses what Xen will do when using continuation and
> > hypercall preemption, my concern here was that using
> > preempt_schedule_irq() on CONFIG_PREEMPT=n kernels in the middle of a
> > hypercall on the return from an interrupt (e.g., the timer interrupt)
> > would still let the kernel preempt to tasks other than those related
> > to Xen.
> 
> Um.  Why would that be a problem?  We do want to switch to any task the
> Linux scheduler thinks is best.

Its safe but -- it technically is doing kernel preemption, unless we want
to adjust the definition of CONFIG_PREEMPT=n to exclude hypercalls. This
was my original concern with the use of preempt_schedule_irq() to do this.
I am afraid of setting precedents without being clear or wider review and
acceptance.

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-01 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-26 22:26 Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-11-27  6:36 ` Juergen Gross
2014-11-27 18:36   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-11-27 18:46     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-11-27 18:50     ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2014-11-28  4:49       ` Juergen Gross
2014-12-01 11:01         ` David Vrabel
2014-12-01 13:32           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-12-01 14:42             ` Juergen Gross
2014-12-01 15:50               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-11-28 21:51       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-12-01 11:11     ` David Vrabel
2014-12-01 15:05       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-12-01 15:18         ` David Vrabel
2014-12-01 15:44           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-12-01 15:54             ` David Vrabel
2014-12-01 16:19               ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2014-12-01 17:07                 ` Juergen Gross
2014-12-01 17:52                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-12-01 18:16                 ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2014-12-01 22:36                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-12-02 11:11                     ` David Vrabel
2014-12-03  2:28                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-12-03  4:37                         ` Juergen Gross
2014-12-03 19:39                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2014-12-05 16:20                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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