On Wed 2014-12-24 09:13:32, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Pavel Machek wrote: > > Hi! > > > > It seems that it is easy to induce DRAM bit errors by doing repeated > > reads from adjacent memory cells on common hw. Details are at > > > > https://www.ece.cmu.edu/~safari/pubs/kim-isca14.pdf > > > > . Older memory modules seem to work better, and ECC should detect > > this. Paper has inner loop that should trigger this. > > > > Workarounds seem to be at hardware level, and tricky, too. > > One mostly-effective solution would be to stop buying computers > without ECC. Unfortunately, no one seems to sell non-server chips > that can do ECC. Or keep using old computers :-). > > Does anyone have implementation of detector? Any ideas how to work > > around it in software? > > > > Platform-dependent page coloring with very strict, and impossible to > implement fully correctly, page allocation constraints? This seems to be at cacheline level, not at page level, if I understand it correctly. So the problem would is: I have something mapped read-only, and I can still cause bitflips in it. Hmm. So it is pretty obviously a security problem, no need for java. Just do some bit flips in binary root is going to run, and it will crash for him. You can map binaries read-only, so you have enough access. As far as I understand it, attached program could reproduce it on affected machines? Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html