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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] Make rcu_dereference_raw() safe for NMI etc.
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 12:00:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150203110040.GJ26304@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150202195532.GA2218@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 11:55:33AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> As promised/threatened on IRC.
> 
> 							Thanx, Paul
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> rcu: Reverse rcu_dereference_check() conditions
> 
> The rcu_dereference_check() family of primitives evaluates the RCU
> lockdep expression first, and only then evaluates the expression passed
> in.  This works fine normally, but can potentially fail in environments
> (such as NMI handlers) where lockdep cannot be invoked.  The problem is
> that even if the expression passed in is "1", the compiler would need to
> prove that the RCU lockdep expression (rcu_read_lock_held(), for example)
> is free of side effects in order to be able to elide it.  Given that
> rcu_read_lock_held() is sometimes separately compiled, the compiler cannot
> always use this optimization.
> 
> This commit therefore reverse the order of evaluation, so that the
> expression passed in is evaluated first, and the RCU lockdep expression is
> evaluated only if the passed-in expression evaluated to false, courtesy
> of the C-language short-circuit boolean evaluation rules.  This compells
> the compiler to forego executing the RCU lockdep expression in cases
> where the passed-in expression evaluates to "1" at compile time, so that
> (for example) rcu_dereference_raw() can be guaranteed to execute safely
> withing an NMI handler.

My particular worry yesterday was tracing; I was looking at
rcu_read_{,un}lock_notrace() and wondered what would happen if I used
list_for_each_entry_rcu() under it.

_If_ it would indeed do that call, we can end up in:

  list_entry_rcu() -> rcu_dereference_raw() -> rcu_dereference_check()
  -> rcu_read_lock_held() -> rcu_lockdep_current_cpu_online()
  -> preempt_disable()

And preempt_disable() is a traceable thing -- not to mention half the
callstack above doesn't have notrace annotations and would equally
generate function trace events.

Thereby rendering the rcu list ops unsuitable for using under _notrace()
rcu primitives.

So yes, fully agreed on this patch.

Acked-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@infradead.org>


FWIW I think I won't be needing the rcu _notrace() bits (for now), but
it leading to this patch was worth it anyhow ;-)

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-03 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-02 19:55 Paul E. McKenney
2015-02-03 11:00 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-02-03 13:39   ` Paul E. McKenney

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