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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-users <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Carsten Emde <C.Emde@osadl.org>, John Kacur <jkacur@redhat.com>,
	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RT 1/2] rwsem-rt: Do not allow readers to nest
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:13:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150218151352.2968cf06@grimm.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150218195710.GH28763@linutronix.de>

On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:57:10 +0100
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> wrote:

> * Steven Rostedt | 2014-04-08 22:47:01 [-0400]:
> 
> >From: "Steven Rostedt (Red Hat)" <rostedt@goodmis.org>
> >
> >The readers of mainline rwsems are not allowed to nest, the rwsems in the
> >PREEMPT_RT kernel should not nest either.
> 
> I applied this and this is the reason why cpufreq isn't working. What I
> see in cpufreq is:
> |         test.sh-788   [004] .......    61.416288: store: down_read_try
> |         test.sh-788   [004] .......    61.416296: cpufreq_cpu_get: down_read_try
> |         test.sh-788   [004] .......    61.416301: cpufreq_cpu_put.part.6: up_read
> |         test.sh-788   [004] .......    61.416332: store: up_read
> 
> as you see, one code path takes the read path of rw_sema twice.
> 
> Looking at the generic implementation, we have:
> |#define RWSEM_UNLOCKED_VALUE            0x00000000L
> |#define RWSEM_ACTIVE_BIAS               0x00000001L
> |#define RWSEM_WAITING_BIAS              (-RWSEM_ACTIVE_MASK-1)
> 
> | static inline int __down_read_trylock(struct rw_semaphore *sem)
> | {
> |         long tmp;
> | 
> |         while ((tmp = sem->count) >= 0) {
> |                 if (tmp == cmpxchg(&sem->count, tmp,
> |                                    tmp + RWSEM_ACTIVE_READ_BIAS)) {
> |                         return 1;
> |                 }
> |         }
> |         return 0;
> | }
> 
> While sem->count is >= 0 we loop and take the semaphore. So we can have
> five readers at once. The first writer would set count to a negative
> value resulting in trylock failure.
> 
> |static inline void __down_read(struct rw_semaphore *sem)
> |{
> |        if (unlikely(atomic_long_inc_return((atomic_long_t*)&sem->count) <= 0))
> |                rwsem_down_read_failed(sem);
> |}
> 
> Here the same thing but without cmpxchg(). _If_ after an increment the
> value is negative then we take slowpath. Otherwise we have the lock.

OK, so I need to make it so it can nest with trylock. I have to look at
the patch again because it has been a while.

> 
> I think I'm going to revert this patch. Where is it written that
> multiple readers of a RW-semaphore can not nest? According to the code
> we can even have multiple readers without nesting (two+ processes may
> take a reader lock).

An RW sem must not do two down_read()s on the same lock (it's fine for
a trylock if it has a fail safe for it). The reason is, the second
down_read() will block if there's a writer waiting. Thus you are
guaranteed a deadlock if you have the lock for read, a write comes in
and waits, and you grab the RW sem again, because it will block, and
the writer is waiting for the reader to release. Thus you have a
deadlock.

I'll have to revisit this. I also need to revisit the multi readers
(although Thomas hates it, but he even admitted there's a better way to
do it. Now only if I could remember what that was ;-)

Thanks,

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-18 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-09  2:47 [PATCH RT 0/2] rwsem-rt: Make rwsem rt closer to mainline Steven Rostedt
2014-04-09  2:47 ` [PATCH RT 1/2] rwsem-rt: Do not allow readers to nest Steven Rostedt
2014-05-02  9:04   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2015-02-18 19:57   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2015-02-18 20:13     ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2015-02-20  5:07       ` Jason Low
2015-02-25 12:15       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2014-04-09  2:47 ` [PATCH RT 2/2] rtmutex: Remove duplicate rt_mutex_init() Steven Rostedt
2014-05-02  9:08   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2014-05-02 13:12     ` Steven Rostedt
2014-05-02 13:21       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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