From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf/tui: Change default selection background color to yellow
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 20:18:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150305191812.GA13280@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150305141929.GS5187@kernel.org>
* Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org> wrote:
> Em Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 11:32:13AM +0100, Ingo Molnar escreveu:
> > Boris reported that 'perf top' is unusable on his default 'black on
> > white' terminal, which uses (eye friendly) light-grey as a background
> > color.
> >
> > The reason is that the TUI cursor for the current selection line uses
> > HE_COLORSET_SELECTED, and that has a default background color of
> > 'lightgrey' - which is a common terminal background choice and thus
> > the colors conflict.
> >
> > Use yellow as the background color instead: that should be an uncommon
> > terminal background, yet it's still ergonomic on both black and
> > white/grey terminals.
> >
> > [ It would be a better solution to straight out detect color
> > collisions and resolve them reasonably by converting them to RGB and
> > calculating color space distances, but I was unable to find
> > proper documentation for SLtt_get_color_object() to recover the
> > current color scheme so I gave up ... Yellow works well enough. ]
>
> Thanks, applying.
>
> BTW, I started with newt, thinking it would give me good widgets,
> only to, after having reached its limitations write my own, this
> time just on, like newt, top of slang's tui libraries, eventually I
> think I'll move to ncurses or even just use the kernel tty interface
> directly ;-)
LOL! :-)
Btw., a related problem: X terminals are pretty high overhead
unfortunately, I cringe every time I run 'perf top' on a very fast
system:
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
4240 mingo 20 0 1031088 176112 106648 S 5.9 0.3 101:54.30 konsole
1985 root 20 0 649412 194760 157464 S 3.0 0.3 41:49.94 Xorg
2395 mingo 20 0 2283956 526044 127108 S 2.0 0.8 34:40.23 compiz
13258 mingo 20 0 207588 70916 12112 S 1.3 0.1 0:03.01 perf
10%+ of GUI CPU overhead with a refresh every 2 seconds (i.e. only 0.5
fps) - ridiculous!
So to fix this I think we eventually want a raw OpenGL client for
local system 'perf top' use and such: that would be (by far) the
lowest overhead UI interface to run profiling from without disturbing
the system, with UI overhead in the ~1% range at most.
Raw (no toolkits) OpenGL would also allow us to do a lot of other UI
and performance tricks.
Would you have any fundamental objections against OpenGL UI clients?
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-05 19:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-05 10:32 Ingo Molnar
2015-03-05 10:47 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-03-05 14:19 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-03-05 19:18 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-12-10 8:15 ` [tip:perf/core] perf tui: " tip-bot for Ingo Molnar
2015-12-09 9:55 [PATCH] perf/tui: " Borislav Petkov
2015-12-09 13:45 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
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