From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: "Paweł Moll" <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
"Adrian Hunter" <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
"Stephane Eranian" <eranian@google.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@kernel.org>,
"David Ahern" <dsahern@gmail.com>,
"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
"Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@redhat.com>,
"Namhyung Kim" <namhyung@gmail.com>,
"Paul Mackerras" <paulus@samba.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"Sonny Rao" <sonnyrao@chromium.org>,
"ak@linux.intel.com" <ak@linux.intel.com>,
vincent.weaver@maine.edu
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/2] time: Add ktime_get_mono_raw_fast_ns()
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 12:24:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150317112453.GK21418@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALAqxLUH0-L+NiDS7175Edt8NpOCskmgf6KPfGzafVpxTEBnaw@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:49:49AM -0800, John Stultz wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:29 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > @@ -489,7 +512,12 @@ static void timekeeping_update(struct ti
> > memcpy(&shadow_timekeeper, &tk_core.timekeeper,
> > sizeof(tk_core.timekeeper));
> >
> > - update_fast_timekeeper(&tk->tkr);
> > + update_fast_timekeeper(&tk_fast_mono, &tk->tkr);
> > +
> > + tkr = tk->tkr;
> > + tkr.mult = tk->tkr.clock->mult;
> > + tkr.shift = tk->tkr.clock->shift;
> > + update_fast_timekeeper(&tk_fast_mono_raw, &tkr);
>
> So this is sort of sneaky and subtle here, which will surely cause
> problems later on. You're copying the original mult/shift pair into a
> copy of the tkr, so you get similar results from timekeeping_get_ns()
> as you'd want from timekeeping_get_ns_raw(). This results in multiple
> ways of getting the raw clock.
>
> I think it would be better to either add a new tkr structure for the
> raw clock in the timekeeper, so you can directly copy it over, or
> extend the tkr structure so it can contain the raw values as well.
>
> Also, there's no real reason to have fast/non-fast versions of the raw
> clock. Since it isn't affected by frequency changes, it can't have the
> inconsistency issues the monotonic clock can see (which are documented
> in the comment near ktime_get_mono_fast_ns()). So we can probably
> condense these and avoid duplicative code.
So I was looking at this again; and I think we do indeed need a second
way to read mono_raw.
So the immediate problem is the tk_core.seq loop around
timekeeping_get_ns_raw(); if the NMI happens during the write side of
that we're stuck.
Now the reason we need that seqcount is because of tk->tkr.cycle_last,
which, afaict, is the only bit that mono_raw needs that changes. With
the possible exception of the suspend/resume paths; we also need to deal
with NMIs requesting time during those.
And we need this silly cycle_last business because of short clocks,
which is something the generic code needs to deal with. And because we
have a bit of an error margin on that we can indeed use a 'stale'
cycle_last.
As to the above suggestions:
- we cannot add another tkr structure to struct timekeeper because that
would duplicate a number of fields, including the above mentioned
cycle_last, and having two of those is bound to cause confusion; and,
- we cannot extend tkr because that would make it overflow the
cacheline.
So as it is, I do not see any other way than the already proposed patch;
we even need the update from timekeeping_update() because we need an
up-to-date cycle_last.
So all I can really do is write a better changelog.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-17 11:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-20 14:29 [RFC][PATCH 0/2] On perf and clocks Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-20 14:29 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] time: Add ktime_get_mono_raw_fast_ns() Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-20 19:49 ` John Stultz
2015-02-20 20:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-17 11:24 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-03-18 19:48 ` John Stultz
2015-02-20 14:29 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] perf: Add per event clockid support Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-20 15:28 ` Pawel Moll
2015-02-20 16:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-23 8:13 ` Adrian Hunter
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