From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751523AbbCUNd3 (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:33:29 -0400 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:45717 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751237AbbCUNd0 (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Mar 2015 09:33:26 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2015 14:33:11 +0100 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Andrew Morton Cc: Eric B Munson , Vlastimil Babka , Thomas Gleixner , Christoph Lameter , Mel Gorman , David Rientjes , Rik van Riel , Michal Hocko , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH V7] Allow compaction of unevictable pages Message-ID: <20150321133311.GA23123@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <1426859390-10974-1-git-send-email-emunson@akamai.com> <20150320151703.dfd116931ddb397ade8bfd8c@linux-foundation.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150320151703.dfd116931ddb397ade8bfd8c@linux-foundation.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2012-12-30) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 03:17:03PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:49:50 -0400 Eric B Munson wrote: > > > Currently, pages which are marked as unevictable are protected from > > compaction, but not from other types of migration. The POSIX real time > > extension explicitly states that mlock() will prevent a major page > > fault, but the spirit of this is that mlock() should give a process the > > ability to control sources of latency, including minor page faults. > > However, the mlock manpage only explicitly says that a locked page will > > not be written to swap and this can cause some confusion. The > > compaction code today does not give a developer who wants to avoid swap > > but wants to have large contiguous areas available any method to achieve > > this state. This patch introduces a sysctl for controlling compaction > > behavior with respect to the unevictable lru. Users that demand no page > > faults after a page is present can set compact_unevictable_allowed to 0 > > and users who need the large contiguous areas can enable compaction on > > locked memory by leaving the default value of 1. > > Do we really really really need the /proc knob? We're already > migrating these pages so users of mlock will occasionally see some > latency - how likely is it that this patch will significantly damage > anyone? -rt disables everything that causes those migrations (with exception of sys_migrate_pages). And like I've argued before; mlock() is part of the posix real-time extensions and the real-time people really do not want those migrations. And while the letter of the posix spec allows migrations, the spirit clearly does not.