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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <dahi@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, benh@kernel.crashing.org, paulus@samba.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com,
	schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, borntraeger@de.ibm.com, mst@redhat.com,
	David.Laight@ACULAB.COM, hughd@google.com, hocko@suse.cz
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] Reenable might_sleep() checks for might_fault()
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:15:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150327161536.GH23123@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150327164050.04693bff@thinkpad-w530>

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 04:40:50PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> e.g. futex_atomic_op_inuser(): easy to fix, add preempt_enable/disable
> respectively.
> 
> e.g. futex_atomic_cmpxchg_inatomic(): not so easy / nice to fix.
> 
> The "inatomic" variants rely on the caller to make sure that preemption is
> disabled.
> 
>         pagefault_disable();
>         ret = futex_atomic_cmpxchg_inatomic(curval, uaddr, uval, newval);
>         pagefault_enable();

Typically the _inatomic() variants of functions have the exception
tables required for fixups and can return -EFAULT. In that regard the
futex_atomic_cmpxchg_inatomic() is consistently named.

In specific the above is taken from cmpxchg_futex_value_locked(), which
is private to futex.c, so we don't really need to worry about it.

Furthermore, the futex.c helpers that wrap them in pagefault_disable()
do so because they want to handle the fault themselves. I don't think we
need to worry about that.

> 1. We could simply add preempt_disable/enable to the calling code. However that
> results in _all_ futex_atomic_cmpxchg_inatomic() running with disabled
> preemption, although the implementation doesn't really need it. So there is not
> really a "decoupling", but to counters to set.

Not really needed, the few callsites where they are not already under a
lock is where we want to explicitly handle the -EFAULT case ourselves.

> 2. We could add the preempt_disable/enable to the implementations that only
> need it, leaving calling code as is. However, then the name
> "futex_atomic_cmpxchg_inatomic" is misleading, because it has nothing to do
> with "inatomic" anymore.

The _inatomic() naming is because it _can_ be called from atomic
context, like __copy_to_user_inatomic(). It doesn't mean it has to.
These functions work just fine outside of atomic regions.

And they still can be used in atomic regions, but now
pagefault_disable() will also trigger the exception fixup.

I don't think we should worry too much about this.

> The same applies to other "inatomic" functions. I think most of these functions
> rely on pagefaults to be disabled in order to work correctly, not disabled
> preemption.
> 
> Any idea how to fix this or what would be the way to go?

I have the feeling you're over thinking this. _inatomic() has exception
fixups and will return -EFAULT when it cannot do the pagefault in place,
for whatever reason -- traditionally because of atomic context, now also
pagefault_disable().

And esp. things like futexes have been extensively used under -rt and
are known good.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-27 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-10 14:23 David Hildenbrand
2014-12-10 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] uaccess: add pagefault_count to thread_info David Hildenbrand
2014-12-15 10:07   ` LF.Tan
2014-12-15 11:23     ` David Hildenbrand
2014-12-15 12:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-12-10 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] uaccess: count pagefault_disable() levels in pagefault_count David Hildenbrand
2014-12-10 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm, uaccess: trigger might_sleep() in might_fault() when pagefaults are disabled David Hildenbrand
2014-12-10 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] uaccess: clarify that uaccess may only sleep if pagefaults are not disabled David Hildenbrand
2014-12-10 14:23 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] uaccess: CONFIG_DEBUG_PAGEFAULT_COUNT to debug pagefault_count David Hildenbrand
2014-12-15 10:45 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Reenable might_sleep() checks for might_fault() Peter Zijlstra
2014-12-15 11:21   ` David Hildenbrand
2014-12-15 12:50     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-12-15 13:08       ` David Hildenbrand
2015-01-12 14:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2015-01-30 15:52   ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-02-09 14:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-19 14:48     ` David Hildenbrand
2015-02-19 15:07       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-19 15:14         ` David Hildenbrand
2015-03-27 15:40         ` David Hildenbrand
2015-03-27 16:15           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-03-27 19:05             ` David Hildenbrand

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