From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: "Pinski, Andrew" <Andrew.Pinski@caviumnetworks.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Andreas Kraschitzer <andreas.kraschitzer@theobroma-systems.com>,
Benedikt Huber <benedikt.huber@theobroma-systems.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Pinski <apinski@cavium.com>,
Kumar Sankaran <ksankaran@apm.com>,
"Dr. Philipp Tomsich" <philipp.tomsich@theobroma-systems.com>,
linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
Christoph Muellner <christoph.muellner@theobroma-systems.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/24] ILP32 for ARM64
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 15:56:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150414145643.GE14546@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8EFB0EC5-969B-40B1-BF72-359D9CB76B3F@caviumnetworks.com>
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:51:54AM +0000, Pinski, Andrew wrote:
> > On Apr 14, 2015, at 4:15 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 14 April 2015 10:45:43 Pinski, Andrew wrote:
> >>> On Apr 14, 2015, at 3:08 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> >>> There are multiple ways of doing this:
> >>>
> >>> a) separate syscall table for arm64: as you say, this is the current approach,
> >>> and I'd like to avoid that too
> >>> b) add syscalls for ilp32 as additional numbers in the normal lp64 version of
> >>> asm-generic/unistd.h, and share the binary tables between ilp32 and lp64
> >>> on aarch64
> >>> c) change asm-generic/unistd.h to generate three possible tables: instead of
> >>> just native (lp64 or ilp32 depending on the arch), compat (support for
> >>> existing ilp32 binaries on some architectures, there would also be a
> >>> "modern" ilp32 variant that is a mix of the two, as your table today
> >>> d) don't use the asm-generic/unistd.h table for aarch64-ilp32 at all, but instead
> >>> reuse the table from arch/arm64/include/asm/unistd32.h
> >>>
> >>> I think you are referring to approach b) or c) above, but my preferred one
> >>> would actually be d).
> >>
> >> D is the worst of all 4 options in my mind. The reason is when a new syscall is
> >> added, then you have to update that file too.
> >
> > I don't know what the miscommunication is here, but the advantage of d is
> > specifically that it is /less/ work to maintain: With the current approach,
> > each new syscall that gets added needs to be checked to see if the normal
> > aarch64 version works or if it needs another wrapper, while with d) we
> > get the update for free, because we follow exactly what aarch32 is doing.
>
> More than that d won't work due to ucontext being different between
> aarch32 and aarch64.
This too, I forgot to mention it (unless we restrict ILP32 to only 15
registers, reduced FP bank; in summary, it won't work).
> Also this abi is about to be used in a product so any changes need to
> happen fast and need to thought out why making changes to it make
> senses.
This is not our problem really. It's been pretty quiet on the ILP32
front for the past 6 months or more and just because a product is going
to use it is not an argument to accept a long term ABI.
> Changing to use the aarch32 syscall #'s make less sense since this is
> not a legacy syscalls.
That I agree. I'm fine with 32-bit only data structures but I really
want to stick to the asm-generic/unistd.h syscalls for new ABIs.
--
Catalin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-14 14:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-13 19:44 Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 01/24] arm64:ilp32: add documentation on the ILP32 ABI " Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 02/24] arm64: ensure the kernel is compiled for LP64 Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 03/24] arm64: rename COMPAT to AARCH32_EL0 in Kconfig Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 04/24] arm64: change some CONFIG_COMPAT over to use CONFIG_AARCH32_EL0 instead Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 05/24] arm64:ilp32: expose 'kernel_long' as 'long long' for ILP32 Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 06/24] arm64:uapi: set __BITS_PER_LONG correctly for ILP32 and LP64 Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 07/24] arm64:ilp32: share signal structures between ILP32 and LP64 ABIs Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 08/24] arm64:ilp32: use 64bit syscall-names for ILP32 when passing 64bit registers Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 09/24] arm64:ilp32: use non-compat syscall names for ILP32 as for LP64 Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 10/24] arm64: introduce is_a32_task and is_a32_thread (for AArch32 compat) Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 11/24] arm64:ilp32: add is_ilp32_compat_{task,thread} and TIF_32BIT_AARCH64 Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 12/24] arm64:ilp32: COMPAT_USE_64BIT_TIME is true for ILP32 tasks Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 13/24] arm64:ilp32: share HWCAP between LP64 and ILP32 Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 14/24] arm64:ilp32 use the native LP64 'start_thread' for ILP32 threads Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 15/24] arm64:ilp32: support core dump generation for ILP32 Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 16/24] arm64: add support for starting ILP32 (ELFCLASS32) binaries Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 17/24] arm64:ilp32: add vdso-ilp32 and use for signal return Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 18/24] ptrace: Allow compat to use the native siginfo Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 19/24] arm64:ilp32: add sys_ilp32.c and a separate table (in entry.S) to use it Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 20/24] arm64:ilp32: use compat-syscalls for msgsnd and msgrcv for ILP32 Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 21/24] arm64:ilp32: use the native siginfo instead of the compat siginfo Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 22/24] arm64:ilp32: use compat for stack_t Philipp Tomsich
2015-05-05 0:03 ` Pinski, Andrew
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 23/24] arm64:ilp32: change COMPAT_ELF_PLATFORM to report a a subplatform for ILP32 Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 19:44 ` [PATCH v4 24/24] arm64:ilp32: add ARM64_ILP32 to Kconfig Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-13 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 00/24] ILP32 for ARM64 Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-13 22:58 ` Dr. Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-14 9:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <AC03A80E-49F8-4A08-9DDA-0B9F8B734F51@theobroma-systems.com>
2015-04-14 10:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-14 10:45 ` Pinski, Andrew
2015-04-14 11:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-14 11:50 ` Dr. Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-14 14:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-14 15:00 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-04-14 22:28 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-15 9:18 ` Dr. Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-15 10:01 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-04-15 15:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-15 15:38 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-04-15 17:01 ` Dr. Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-15 17:22 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-04-15 22:25 ` Alexander Graf
2015-04-16 11:03 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-04-16 11:19 ` Dr. Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-16 11:33 ` Pinski, Andrew
2015-04-16 13:31 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-04-16 15:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-17 9:01 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-04-17 13:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-17 14:06 ` Alexander Graf
2015-04-17 14:46 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-04-17 15:15 ` Dr. Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-18 19:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-04 10:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-04 10:32 ` Dr. Philipp Tomsich
2015-05-04 14:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-05-05 13:11 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-17 15:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-20 15:56 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-04-20 17:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-20 14:37 ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2015-04-16 14:27 ` Catalin Marinas
[not found] ` <38FDDD2B-89C4-43C8-897D-A9DB6D023B7D@theobroma-systems.com>
2015-04-15 12:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-14 11:51 ` Pinski, Andrew
2015-04-14 14:56 ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2015-04-14 13:38 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-04-14 14:47 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-04-14 15:29 ` Dr. Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-14 16:55 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-04-15 10:31 ` Dr. Philipp Tomsich
2015-04-15 12:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-15 12:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-14 15:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-04-15 11:22 ` Catalin Marinas
[not found] ` <721B7D5F-0A9A-45B7-8036-730ED54FB3AB@theobroma-systems.com>
2015-04-15 15:49 ` Catalin Marinas
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