From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
To: Liran Liss <liranl@mellanox.com>
Cc: "ira.weiny" <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Michael Wang <yun.wang@profitbricks.com>,
Roland Dreier <roland@kernel.org>,
Sean Hefty <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
Hal Rosenstock <hal.rosenstock@gmail.com>,
"hal@dev.mellanox.co.il" <hal@dev.mellanox.co.il>,
Tom Tucker <tom@opengridcomputing.com>,
Steve Wise <swise@opengridcomputing.com>,
Hoang-Nam Nguyen <hnguyen@de.ibm.com>,
"raisch@de.ibm.com" <raisch@de.ibm.com>,
Mike Marciniszyn <infinipath@intel.com>,
Eli Cohen <eli@mellanox.com>,
Faisal Latif <faisal.latif@intel.com>,
Jack Morgenstein <jackm@dev.mellanox.co.il>,
Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@mellanox.com>,
Haggai Eran <haggaie@mellanox.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 10:40:34 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150422164034.GB19500@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DB4PR05MB086335365371E756B789FE84B1EE0@DB4PR05MB0863.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:38:34AM +0000, Liran Liss wrote:
> This is redundant. All IB ports have SMI, so if you know that you
> are using an IB device, you know you have an SMI.
You should really go back and read the whole thread, this has already
been discussed.
The patch set was developed from the 'bottom up' - all the points that
did 'if is iwarp/rocee/ib/foo' were examined, Michael figured out what
*difference* that code actually required and made a dedicated test for it.
It turns out, one of those differences is SMI, !SMI.
The tests are an inventory of all the spec differences the code cares
about. This is the entire point.
Yes, of course, an abstract notion like <link-type, transport,
node-type> can describe the same state space, but then the call sites
loose the insight into *WHY* the code cares, and *WHAT* the difference
is.
This is bad:
if (rdma_standard_ib() || rdma_standard_rocee() ||
rdma_standard_opa())
This is worse:
if (!rdma_standard_iwarp())
This is better:
if (rdma_cap_mad())
Going forward, we are growing more tests, and worse, they are for
standards that are not public. We need to stop open-coding 'is
standard' type code and actually start documenting these differences.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-22 16:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-20 8:28 Michael Wang
2015-04-20 8:32 ` [PATCH v5 01/27] IB/Verbs: Implement new callback query_transport() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:04 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 15:02 ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-22 15:21 ` Devesh Sharma
2015-04-22 16:22 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 16:42 ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-23 7:13 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-20 8:32 ` [PATCH v5 02/27] IB/Verbs: Implement raw management helpers Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:05 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:33 ` [PATCH v5 03/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core mad/agent/user_mad Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:05 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:33 ` [PATCH v5 04/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core cm Michael Wang
2015-04-20 17:04 ` Hal Rosenstock
2015-04-21 7:42 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:05 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:34 ` [PATCH v5 05/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core sa_query Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:05 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:34 ` [PATCH v5 06/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core multicast Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:06 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:35 ` [PATCH v5 07/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-ulp ipoib Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:06 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:35 ` [PATCH v5 08/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-ulp xprtrdma Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:06 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:36 ` [PATCH v5 09/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core verbs/uverbs_cmd/sysfs Michael Wang
2015-04-21 23:19 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 7:38 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 16:28 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-23 9:25 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-20 8:36 ` [PATCH v5 10/27] IB/Verbs: Reform cm related part in IB-core cma/ucm Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:07 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:37 ` [PATCH v5 11/27] IB/Verbs: Reform route related part in IB-core cma Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:07 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:37 ` [PATCH v5 12/27] IB/Verbs: Reform mcast " Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:07 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:38 ` [PATCH v5 13/27] IB/Verbs: Reserve legacy transport type in 'dev_addr' Michael Wang
2015-04-21 5:58 ` Devesh Sharma
2015-04-21 8:05 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:08 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:38 ` [PATCH v5 14/27] IB/Verbs: Reform cma_acquire_dev() Michael Wang
2015-04-21 6:15 ` Devesh Sharma
2015-04-21 8:08 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:08 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:38 ` [PATCH v5 15/27] IB/Verbs: Reform rest part in IB-core cma Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:08 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:39 ` [PATCH v5 16/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_mad() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:09 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:39 ` [PATCH v5 17/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_smi() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:09 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:40 ` [PATCH v5 18/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_cm() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:09 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:40 ` [PATCH v5 19/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_iw_cm() Michael Wang
2015-04-20 14:00 ` Steve Wise
2015-04-20 15:16 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-20 15:51 ` Tom Tucker
2015-04-20 16:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-20 16:39 ` Tom Tucker
2015-04-21 7:39 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-21 15:06 ` Tom Tucker
2015-04-22 0:10 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:40 ` [PATCH v5 20/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_sa() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:10 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:41 ` [PATCH v5 21/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_mcast() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:10 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:41 ` [PATCH v5 22/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ipoib() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:11 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 5:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-22 8:49 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 16:45 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 16:54 ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-23 9:31 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 17:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-23 7:53 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-20 8:42 ` [PATCH v5 23/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_read_multi_sge() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:11 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:42 ` [PATCH v5 24/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_af_ib() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:11 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:43 ` [PATCH v5 25/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_eth_ah() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:11 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:43 ` [PATCH v5 26/27] IB/Verbs: Clean up rdma_ib_or_iboe() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:12 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:43 ` [PATCH v5 27/27] IB/Verbs: Cleanup rdma_node_get_transport() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:13 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-21 5:41 ` [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers Devesh Sharma
2015-04-21 7:46 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-21 11:03 ` Devesh Sharma
2015-04-21 15:56 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-21 23:36 ` Liran Liss
2015-04-22 2:41 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 8:32 ` Michael Wang
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2015-04-22 16:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
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2015-04-24 16:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-27 19:10 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 16:40 ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-24 14:49 ` Liran Liss
2015-04-22 8:30 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 16:16 ` Liran Liss
2015-04-23 7:33 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-24 14:44 ` Liran Liss
2015-04-24 15:07 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-27 19:22 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 14:59 ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-22 16:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-23 8:36 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 17:10 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-23 9:36 ` Michael Wang
[not found] ` <DB4PR05MB08630282DEFFFB181A525B67B1EC0@DB4PR05MB0863.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com>
2015-04-27 20:58 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 16:46 ` Dave Goodell (dgoodell)
2015-04-22 0:28 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 7:44 ` Michael Wang
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