From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1423201AbbEENAv (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 May 2015 09:00:51 -0400 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:40711 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1423185AbbEENAl (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 May 2015 09:00:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 15:00:26 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: "Paul E. McKenney" Cc: Rik van Riel , Paolo Bonzini , Ingo Molnar , Andy Lutomirski , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , X86 ML , williams@redhat.com, Andrew Lutomirski , fweisbec@redhat.com, Heiko Carstens , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: question about RCU dynticks_nesting Message-ID: <20150505130026.GM21418@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20150501184025.GA2114@gmail.com> <5543CFE5.1030509@redhat.com> <20150502052733.GA9983@gmail.com> <55473B47.6080600@redhat.com> <55479749.7070608@redhat.com> <5547C1DC.10802@redhat.com> <20150504193923.GX5381@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20150505105346.GJ21418@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20150505123446.GN5381@linux.vnet.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150505123446.GN5381@linux.vnet.ibm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2012-12-30) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 05:34:46AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 12:53:46PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 12:39:23PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > But in non-preemptible RCU, we have PREEMPT=n, so there is no preempt > > > counter in production kernels. Even if there was, we have to sample this > > > on other CPUs, so the overhead of preempt_disable() and preempt_enable() > > > would be where kernel entry/exit is, so I expect that this would be a > > > net loss in overall performance. > > > > We unconditionally have the preempt_count, its just not used much for > > PREEMPT_COUNT=n kernels. > > We have the field, you mean? I might be missing something, but it still > appears to me thta preempt_disable() does nothing for PREEMPT=n kernels. > So what am I missing? There's another layer of accessors that can in fact manipulate the preempt_count even for !PREEMPT_COUNT kernels. They are currently used by things like pagefault_disable().