From: Hagen Paul Pfeifer <hagen@jauu.net>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] force inlining of spinlock ops
Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 10:16:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150512081635.GB6969@virgo.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150511151913.86c37cde9294700b4b0e26c4@linux-foundation.org>
* Andrew Morton | 2015-05-11 15:19:13 [-0700]:
>Presumably Hagen didn't see the issue with spinlock functions. I
>wonder why not.
I think it is a compiler version thing. Not sure why I didn't see it.
>I suppose we should get both these consolidated into a coherent whole.
+1 (let wait for a moment and delay patch inclusion)
>It's a bit irritating to have to do this: presumably gcc will get fixed
>and the huge sprinkling of __always_inline will become less and less
>relevant over time and people will have trouble distinguishing "real
>__always_inline which was put here for a purpose" from "dopey
>__always_inline to work around a short-term gcc glitch".
>
>__always_inline is one of those things where a usage site should always
>be commented, because it's near impossible to work out why someone
>chose to use it. Quick, tell me what's happening in include/linux/slab.h.
>
>
>Perhaps we should do
>
>/*
> * Comment goes here. It is very specific about gcc versions.
> */
>#define inline_for_broken_gcc __always_inline
yeah, but name it in a compiler independent way. Sometimes we may seen similar
misbehaving with clang too. But see my other comments
#define inline_for_broken_cc __always_inline
>and then use inline_for_broken_gcc everywhere. That way, the reason
>for the marker is self-explanatory and we can later hunt all these
>things down and remvoe them.
>
>Also, the inline_for_broken_gcc definition can be made dependent on
>particular gcc versions, which will allow us to easily keep an eye on
>the behaviour of later gcc versions.
Mhh, I am not a big fan of this. I think we maneuver into a unmaintainable
area with this approach. We must test, check this for all compiler version,
new version, all kinds of compiler flags, etc pp.
Another Idea: we talk roundabout about 50 functions where inlining is mission
critical (and correct) but gcc sometimes have trouble to do so. Why not
enforce __always_inline there? E.g. annotate these rare function with
enforce_inline to highlight that these functions are always inlined. No matter
what optimization and what compiler flags:
#define enforce_inline __always_inline
Developers are encouraged to use inline - because then the compiler can decide
based on his algorithms/heuristics if a function should be inlined or not. For
some really hot & short function the developer can use enforce_inline
- but this should be an exception.
Hagen
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-12 8:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-11 17:57 Denys Vlasenko
2015-05-11 18:53 ` Josh Triplett
2015-05-11 22:19 ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-12 8:16 ` Hagen Paul Pfeifer [this message]
2015-05-12 9:44 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-05-12 9:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-12 7:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-12 11:02 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-05-12 11:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-12 13:13 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-05-13 10:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-13 10:28 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-05-13 10:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-13 14:09 ` Denys Vlasenko
2015-05-15 7:20 ` Heiko Carstens
2015-07-13 18:31 Denys Vlasenko
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