From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933860AbbHDNKq (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:10:46 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([198.137.202.9]:59691 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933269AbbHDNKp (ORCPT ); Tue, 4 Aug 2015 09:10:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 15:10:36 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Oleg Nesterov Cc: Arnd Bergmann , Ingo Molnar , Linus Torvalds , "Paul E.McKenney" , Waiman Long , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: qrwlock && read-after-read Message-ID: <20150804131036.GQ25159@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20150804130053.GA22608@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150804130053.GA22608@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2012-12-30) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 03:00:53PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote: > I am working on the (off-topic) bug report which motivated me to > look at locking/qrwlock.c and it seems to me there is a problem > with the queued rwlocks. > > Unless I am totally confused read-after-read is no longer valid, > write_lock() stops the new readers. And lockdep doesn't know this, > read_lock()->rwlock_acquire_read() doesn't match the reality. The > code doing > > read_lock(X); > read_lock(X); > > can deadlock if another CPU does write_lock(X) in between. This > was fine before rwlock_t was changed to use qrwlock. > > A nested read_lock() in interrupt should be fine though, and this > is because queue_read_lock_slowpath() "ignores" _QW_WAITING if > in_interrupt(). > > This means that rwlock_t has the really strange semantics imho, > and again, it is not lockdep-friendly. > > What do you think we can/should do? Or did I misread this code? Fix lockdep, although that's non trivial from what I remember. These (new) semantics were very much on purpose and suggested by Linus IIRC.