From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Vatika Harlalka <vatikaharlalka@gmail.com>,
Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@ezchip.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] sched/nohz: Affine unpinned timers to housekeepers
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:04:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150824140435.GB27147@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150824135018.GE11078@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 06:50:18AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 08:44:12AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > * Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > here it's fully set - triggering the bug I'm worried about. So what am I
> > > > missing, what prevents CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_ALL from crashing?
> > >
> > > The boot CPU is excluded from tick_nohz_full_mask in tick_nohz_init(), which is
> > > called from tick_init() which is called from start_kernel() shortly after
> > > rcu_init():
> > >
> > > cpu = smp_processor_id();
> > >
> > > if (cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, tick_nohz_full_mask)) {
> > > pr_warning("NO_HZ: Clearing %d from nohz_full range for timekeeping\n", cpu);
> > > cpumask_clear_cpu(cpu, tick_nohz_full_mask);
> > > }
> > >
> > > This happens after the call to tick_nohz_init_all() that does the
> > > cpumask_setall() that you called out above.
> >
> > Ah, indeed - I somehow missed that.
> >
> > This brings up two other questions:
> >
> > 1)
> >
> > the 'housekeeping CPU' is essentially the boot CPU. Yet we dedicate a full mask to
> > it (housekeeping_mask - a variable mask to begin with) and recover the
> > housekeeping CPU via:
> >
> > + return cpumask_any_and(housekeeping_mask, cpu_online_mask);
> >
> > which can be pretty expensive, and which gets executed in two hotpaths:
> >
> > kernel/time/hrtimer.c: return &per_cpu(hrtimer_bases, get_nohz_timer_target());
> > kernel/time/timer.c: return per_cpu_ptr(&tvec_bases, get_nohz_timer_target());
> >
> > ... why not just use a single housekeeping_cpu which would be way faster to pass
> > down to the timer code?
>
> The housekeeping_cpu came later, but that does seem like a good optimization.
Well nohz full is likely to be used for HPC and that can involve big machines.
Having the housekeeping duty spread per node is a likely future evolution there,
if it isn't already used that way.
So we need to keep it a cpumask.
>
> > 2)
> >
> > What happens if the boot CPU is offlined? (under CONFIG_BOOTPARAM_HOTPLUG_CPU0=y)
> >
> > I don't see CPU hotplug callbacks fixing up the housekeeping_mask if the boot CPU
> > is offlined.
>
> The tick_nohz_cpu_down_callback() function does this, though in a less
> than obvious way. The tick_do_timer_cpu variable is the housekeeping
> CPU that is currently handling timing, and it is not permitted to go
> offline.
Indeed, more specifically tick-common.c makes sure to set the timekeeping
duty to a housekeeper and that housekeeper is always the boot CPU due to
early device initialization.
But I should find a way to simplify that code and make it obvious it's always
set to the boot CPU.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-24 14:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-14 1:46 Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-22 21:09 ` Ping: " Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-23 1:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-08-23 5:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-23 16:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-08-24 1:28 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-24 6:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-24 7:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-24 7:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-24 7:54 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-24 8:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-24 13:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-24 14:01 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-08-25 8:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-25 13:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-28 8:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-28 12:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-08-24 13:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-08-24 14:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2015-08-24 15:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-08-24 1:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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