From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>
Cc: "平松雅巳 / HIRAMATU,MASAMI" <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
"Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo" <acme@kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@redhat.com>,
"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@amacapital.net>,
"Denys Vlasenko" <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
"Qiaowei Ren" <qiaowei.ren@intel.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] x86/insn: perf tools: Add a few new x86 instructions
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 14:55:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150901125512.GA13857@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55E595B5.7090407@intel.com>
* Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com> wrote:
> > Agreed, what I concern is that someone finds a bug and fixes one of them and
> > another is not fixed.
> >
> > I'll see the forked version and check if it can be merged into the kernel.
>
> Ever since Linus complained about perf tools including kernel headers, I have
> assumed we should have separate source code. That email thread was not cc'ed to
> a mailing list but here is a quote:
>
> Em Sat, Jul 04, 2015 at 08:53:46AM -0700, Linus Torvalds escreveu:
>
> > So this is more fundamental, and looks like it's just due to perf abusing the
> > kernel headers, and now that rbtree has rcu support ("rbtree: Make lockless
> > searches non-fatal"), it gets tons of headers included that really don't work
> > from user space.
> >
> > There might be other things going on, but the rbtree one seems to be a big
> > one. I think perf needs to get its own rbtree header or something, instead of
> > doing that insane "let's include random core kernel headers" thing.
Note that even plain copying and occasional back-merges isn't a bad solution: it's
better than 'messy sharing' of code.
But we can also share code in a bit more organized fashion, and any of the two
solutions I proposed solve these complications:
- if we do the diff -u check warning during perf build then the forked versions
won't stay forked for long. This is the simplest variant.
- if we librarize this functionality into tools/lib/x86/decode/ (and make sure
it's a library that can be linked into the kernel) then we are back to shared
code.
The problem wasn't to share code per se, the problem was to share code in a messy
way, without making it apparent that it's shared code: which made it easy to break
the tools/perf build via harmless looking kernel side changes.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-01 12:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-31 13:58 Adrian Hunter
2015-08-31 13:58 ` [PATCH 1/4] perf tools: Add a test for decoding of " Adrian Hunter
2015-09-01 0:18 ` 平松雅巳 / HIRAMATU,MASAMI
2015-09-01 8:17 ` Adrian Hunter
2015-09-01 11:03 ` 平松雅巳 / HIRAMATU,MASAMI
2015-08-31 13:58 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86/insn: perf tools: Pedantically tweak opcode map for MPX instructions Adrian Hunter
2015-08-31 14:48 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-08-31 13:58 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86/insn: perf tools: Add new SHA instructions Adrian Hunter
2015-08-31 14:50 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-08-31 18:58 ` Adrian Hunter
2015-09-01 0:08 ` 平松雅巳 / HIRAMATU,MASAMI
2015-08-31 13:58 ` [PATCH 4/4] x86/insn: perf tools: Add new memory instructions Adrian Hunter
2015-08-31 14:43 ` [PATCH 0/4] x86/insn: perf tools: Add a few new x86 instructions Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-09-01 8:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-01 11:38 ` 平松雅巳 / HIRAMATU,MASAMI
2015-09-01 12:10 ` Adrian Hunter
2015-09-01 12:55 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-09-01 15:13 ` 平松雅巳 / HIRAMATU,MASAMI
2015-09-01 12:16 ` Adrian Hunter
2015-09-01 13:56 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-09-01 13:59 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-09-01 14:55 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-09-01 19:57 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-09-02 5:59 ` Jiri Olsa
2015-09-02 6:41 ` 平松雅巳 / HIRAMATU,MASAMI
2015-09-02 7:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-02 10:27 ` 平松雅巳 / HIRAMATU,MASAMI
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