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From: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hp.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [4.2, Regression] Queued spinlocks cause major XFS performance regression
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 23:37:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150908063725.GA2164@linux-q0g1.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzGY3iHUwoQB1He4zag7CrF-_OdpHcpUTYvGC48zrSSYA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 07 Sep 2015, Linus Torvalds wrote:

>On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>>
>> Just to continue the argument for arguments sake, the function is named
>> 'virt' (not paravirt) and tests the HYPERVISOR CPUID bit. How is that
>> not appropriately named?
>
>Well, I think right now one issue is that you can't avoid it, even
>when you want pure "raw hardware" spinlocks.
>
>I really think it should at the very least be inside CONFIG_PARAVIRT.

Yeah, I think we all agree here.

>Because it *is* about helping the hypervisor, so really is about
>paravirtualization.

Yes, this is how I interpret it as well.

CONFIG_PARAVIRT seems like a suitable place as while it is known to induce
in overhead for baremetal and distros tend to enable it by default - mainly
for mem pvops (ie: in page fault paths), and having this function doesn't
add any complexity or add make things much different than they already are.

While it is true that CONFIG_HYPERVISOR_GUEST is a pre-req for anything pv,
technically I think it's not as good a fit as CONFIG_PARAVIRT because the
former is really about describing the hypervisor, and that's not what we're
doing here.


Thanks,
Davidlohr

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-08  6:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-04  5:48 Dave Chinner
2015-09-04  6:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-04  7:11   ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-04  7:31     ` Juergen Gross
2015-09-04  7:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04  8:29     ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-04 15:05       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-04 15:14         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04 15:21           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-04 15:30             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04 15:54               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-10  2:06                 ` Waiman Long
2015-09-04 15:58               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-05 17:45                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04 15:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-06 23:32             ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-07  0:05             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-09-07  6:57               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-07 20:45                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-08  6:37                   ` Davidlohr Bueso [this message]
2015-09-08 10:05                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-08 17:45                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-13 10:55             ` [tip:locking/core] locking/qspinlock/x86: Fix performance regression under unaccelerated VMs tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04  7:39   ` [4.2, Regression] Queued spinlocks cause major XFS performance regression Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04  8:12     ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-04 11:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04 22:03         ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-06 23:47         ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-10  2:09           ` Waiman Long
     [not found]         ` <CAC=cRTOraeOeu3Z8C1qx6w=GMSzD_4VevrEzn0mMhrqy=7n3wQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <56094F05.4090809@hpe.com>
2015-09-29  0:47             ` huang ying
2015-09-29  2:57               ` Waiman Long
2015-09-10  2:01 ` Waiman Long

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