From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] barriers: introduce smp_mb__release_acquire and update documentation
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 11:14:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150916091452.GC3816@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150915174724.GP4029@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:47:24AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > diff --git a/arch/powerpc/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/barrier.h
> > index 0eca6efc0631..919624634d0a 100644
> > --- a/arch/powerpc/include/asm/barrier.h
> > +++ b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/barrier.h
> > @@ -87,6 +87,7 @@ do { \
> > ___p1; \
> > })
> >
> > +#define smp_mb__release_acquire() smp_mb()
>
> If we are handling locking the same as atomic acquire and release
> operations, this could also be placed between the unlock and the lock.
I think the point was exactly that we need to separate LOCK/UNLOCK from
ACQUIRE/RELEASE.
> However, independently of the unlock/lock case, this definition and
> use of smp_mb__release_acquire() does not handle full ordering of a
> release by one CPU and an acquire of that same variable by another.
> In that case, we need roughly the same setup as the much-maligned
> smp_mb__after_unlock_lock(). So, do we care about this case? (RCU does,
> though not 100% sure about any other subsystems.)
Indeed, that is a hole in the definition, that I think we should close.
> > #define smp_mb__before_atomic() smp_mb()
> > #define smp_mb__after_atomic() smp_mb()
> > #define smp_mb__before_spinlock() smp_mb()
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h
> > index 0681d2532527..1c61ad251e0e 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h
> > +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/barrier.h
> > @@ -85,6 +85,8 @@ do { \
> > ___p1; \
> > })
> >
> > +#define smp_mb__release_acquire() smp_mb()
> > +
> > #endif
> >
All TSO archs would want this.
> > /* Atomic operations are already serializing on x86 */
> > diff --git a/include/asm-generic/barrier.h b/include/asm-generic/barrier.h
> > index b42afada1280..61ae95199397 100644
> > --- a/include/asm-generic/barrier.h
> > +++ b/include/asm-generic/barrier.h
> > @@ -119,5 +119,9 @@ do { \
> > ___p1; \
> > })
> >
> > +#ifndef smp_mb__release_acquire
> > +#define smp_mb__release_acquire() do { } while (0)
>
> Doesn't this need to be barrier() in the case where one variable was
> released and another was acquired?
Yes, I think its very prudent to never let any barrier degrade to less
than barrier().
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-09-16 9:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-15 16:13 Will Deacon
2015-09-15 17:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-16 9:14 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-09-16 10:29 ` Will Deacon
2015-09-16 10:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-16 11:07 ` Will Deacon
2015-09-17 2:50 ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-17 7:57 ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-17 18:00 ` Will Deacon
2015-09-21 13:45 ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-21 14:10 ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-21 22:23 ` Will Deacon
2015-09-21 23:42 ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-22 15:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-22 15:58 ` Will Deacon
2015-09-22 16:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-16 11:49 ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-16 16:38 ` Will Deacon
2015-09-17 1:56 ` Boqun Feng
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