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From: Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.intel.com>,
	kernel test robot <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	lkp@01.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	bfields@fieldses.org
Subject: Re: [lkp] [nfsd] 4aac1bf05b: -2.9% fsmark.files_per_sec
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 07:35:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151001073503.26a871cc@tlielax.poochiereds.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150930231742.GD3902@dastard>

On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 09:17:42 +1000
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 06:03:59AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > Thanks for testing it and catching the problem in the first place!
> > 
> > FWIW, the problem seems to have been bad hash distribution generated by
> > hash_ptr on struct inode pointers. When the cache had ~10000 entries in
> > it total, one of the hash chains had almost 2000 entries. When I
> > switched to hashing on inode->i_ino, the distribution was much better.
> > 
> > I'm not sure if it was just rotten luck or there is something about
> > inode pointers that makes hash_ptr generate a lot of duplicates. That
> > really could use more investigation...
> 
> Inode pointers have no entropy in the lower 9-10 bits because of
> their size, and being allocated from a slab they are all going to
> have the same set of values in the next 3-4 bits (i.e. offset into
> the slab page which is defined by sizeof(inode)).  Pointers also
> have very similar upper bits, too, because they are all in kernel
> memory.
> 
> hash_64 trys to fold all the entropy from the lower bits into into
> the upper bits and then takes the result from the upper bits. Hence
> if there is no entropy in either the lower or upper bits to start
> with, then the hash may not end up with much entropy in it at all...
> 
> FWIW, see fs/inode.c::hash() to see how the fs code hashes inode
> numbers (called from insert_inode_hash()). It's very different
> because because inode numbers have the majority of their entropy in
> the lower bits and (usually) none in the upper bits...
> 

Thanks for the explanation, Dave. That makes sense.

In hindsight I should have looked at how the vfs code hashes inodes in
its hashtable. Given that we're basically creating "shadow" inode
structures here that would probably work fairly well.
-- 
Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com>

      parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-01 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-28  6:49 kernel test robot
2015-09-29 11:41 ` Jeff Layton
2015-09-29 23:27   ` Huang, Ying
2015-09-30  0:06     ` Jeff Layton
2015-09-30  8:35       ` Huang, Ying
2015-09-30 10:03         ` Jeff Layton
2015-09-30 23:17           ` Dave Chinner
2015-10-01  0:56             ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-10-01 11:35             ` Jeff Layton [this message]

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