From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
jiangshanlai@gmail.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
josh@joshtriplett.org, tglx@linutronix.de, rostedt@goodmis.org,
dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com,
fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, bobby.prani@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/18] rcu: Move rcu_report_exp_rnp() to allow consolidation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 10:46:50 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151008174650.GD3910@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151008171203.GR3816@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 07:12:03PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 08:33:51AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> > > > o CPU B therefore moves up the tree, acquiring the parent
> > > > rcu_node structures' ->lock. In so doing, it forces full
> > > > ordering against all prior RCU read-side critical sections
> > > > of all CPUs corresponding to all leaf rcu_node structures
> > > > subordinate to the current (non-leaf) rcu_node structure.
> > >
> > > And here we iterate the tree and get another lock var involved, here the
> > > barrier upgrade will actually do something.
> >
> > Yep. And I am way too lazy to sort out exactly which acquisitions really
> > truly need smp_mb__after_unlock_lock() and which don't. Besides, if I
> > tried to sort it out, I would occasionally get it wrong, and this would be
> > a real pain to debug. Therefore, I simply do smp_mb__after_unlock_lock()
> > on all acquisitions of the rcu_node structures' ->lock fields. I can
> > actually validate that! ;-)
>
> This is a whole different line of reasoning once again.
>
> The point remains, that the sole purpose of the barrier upgrade is for
> the tree iteration, having some extra (pointless but harmless) instances
> does not detract from that.
>
> > Fair enough, but I will be sticking to the simple coding rule that keeps
> > RCU out of trouble!
>
> Note that there are rnp->lock acquires without the extra barrier though,
> so you seem somewhat inconsistent with your own rule.
>
> See for example:
>
> rcu_dump_cpu_stacks()
> print_other_cpu_stall()
> print_cpu_stall()
>
> (did not do an exhaustive scan, there might be more)
>
> and yes, that is 'obvious' debug code and not critical to the correct
> behaviour of the code, but it is a deviation from 'the rule'.
Which I need to fix, thank you.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-08 17:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-06 16:29 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/18] Expedited grace-period improvements for 4.4 Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/18] rcu: Use rsp->expedited_wq instead of sync_rcu_preempt_exp_wq Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/18] rcu: Move rcu_report_exp_rnp() to allow consolidation Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 20:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 20:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 7:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 8:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-10-07 11:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 11:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 12:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 12:05 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-07 12:09 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-07 12:11 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-07 12:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 13:44 ` [kbuild-all] " Fengguang Wu
2015-10-07 13:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 14:21 ` Fengguang Wu
2015-10-07 14:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 15:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08 10:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 15:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 14:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 14:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 16:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08 9:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-08 15:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08 17:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-08 17:46 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2015-10-09 0:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-09 8:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/18] rcu: Consolidate tree setup for synchronize_rcu_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/18] rcu: Use single-stage IPI algorithm for RCU expedited grace period Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 13:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 18:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 13:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 15:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 13:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 13:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 16:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08 9:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 16:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/18] rcu: Move synchronize_sched_expedited() to combining tree Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/18] rcu: Rename qs_pending to core_needs_qs Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/18] rcu: Invert passed_quiesce and rename to cpu_no_qs Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/18] rcu: Make ->cpu_no_qs be a union for aggregate OR Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/18] rcu: Switch synchronize_sched_expedited() to IPI Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 14:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 16:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/18] rcu: Stop silencing lockdep false positive for expedited grace periods Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/18] rcu: Stop excluding CPU hotplug in synchronize_sched_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 12/18] cpu: Remove try_get_online_cpus() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/18] rcu: Prepare for consolidating expedited CPU selection Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 14/18] rcu: Consolidate " Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 15/18] rcu: Add online/offline info to expedited stall warning message Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 16/18] rcu: Add tasks to expedited stall-warning messages Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 17/18] rcu: Enable stall warnings for synchronize_rcu_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:29 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 18/18] rcu: Better hotplug handling for synchronize_sched_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07 14:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 16:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08 9:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-08 15:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08 15:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-08 15:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08 18:01 ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-09 0:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-09 0:48 ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-09 3:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
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