From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965744AbbJVXee (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:34:34 -0400 Received: from mezzanine.sirena.org.uk ([106.187.55.193]:59992 "EHLO mezzanine.sirena.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753132AbbJVXeP (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 Oct 2015 19:34:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 08:33:10 +0900 From: Mark Brown To: Russell King - ARM Linux Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman , Tomeu Vizoso , Frank Rowand , Rob Herring , Michael Turquette , Stephen Boyd , Vinod Koul , Dan Williams , Linus Walleij , Alexandre Courbot , Thierry Reding , David Airlie , Terje =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bergstr=F6m?= , Stephen Warren , Wolfram Sang , Grant Likely , Kishon Vijay Abraham I , Sebastian Reichel , Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov , David Woodhouse , Liam Girdwood , Felipe Balbi , Jingoo Han , Lee Jones , Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard , Tomi Valkeinen , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, "linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org" , "dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org" , "linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org" , "devicetree@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" , Linux PWM List , "linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org" Message-ID: <20151022233310.GD29919@sirena.org.uk> References: <20151018195330.GB14956@sirena.org.uk> <5627B677.5090109@gmail.com> <20151021162758.GP32054@sirena.org.uk> <5627D6E0.5020708@gmail.com> <562808AF.7090406@gmail.com> <20151022144405.GC21861@kroah.com> <20151022150213.GT32532@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20151022150213.GT32532@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> X-Cookie: The coast was clear. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 211.36.156.43 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: broonie@sirena.org.uk Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] On-demand device probing X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mezzanine.sirena.org.uk) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 04:02:13PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > If it was such a problem, then in the _eight_ days that this has been > discussed so far, _someone_ would have sent some data showing the > problem. I think the fact is, there is no data. > Someone prove me wrong. Someone post the verifiable data showing that > there is a problem to be solved here. > Someone show what the specific failure cases are that are hampering > vendors moving forwards. Someone show the long boot times by way of > kernel message log. Someone show some evidence of the problems that > have been alluded to. > If no one can show some evidence, there isn't a problem here. :) Yeah, I'm not convinced the timing is *such* a big deal either - I do think that the log spam is a real problem but I think something much less invasive like the interface you proposed is good for addressing that. --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWKXI1AAoJECTWi3JdVIfQz30H/RIVYugSpt5G4di2CHITc0BQ yoflpyMikyLfYkdFzjloKeyEodeVohF661x1e/XN7zhOOoZQD712sSW2D8yBDUT6 yrEoEHZsxe6SlCqBTUpuev2KOXoQm11HOxNsYjop+0ZDBPfYrG6xIQfu2rRlQDXM bSYvTXMmgOb2rTVHhORTbtwgZMAXj3K9BdybHilOAyenxrbCx1uX28RgHYJQ+QDc bJvszKCOLJSBYYdn3QFCazwYtS3RtZ4PZtR+ZTfNmliT6dzi5rWcm14n+bIInG6+ XROzzllUhwfN/h4TKFS5+6PJGCE5lu8AobnBVyoSzSqBHk4uMij6zH7YWdHyHOs= =HDzZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J5MfuwkIyy7RmF4Q--