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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 1/6] powerpc: atomic: Make *xchg and *cmpxchg a full barrier
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 16:55:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151026085508.GB13641@fixme-laptop.cn.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1445826001.27249.2.camel@ellerman.id.au>

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On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:20:01AM +0900, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> 
> Sorry guys, these threads are so long I tend not to read them very actively :}
> 
> Looking at the system call path, the straight line path does not include any
> barriers. I can't see any hidden in macros either.
> 
> We also have an explicit sync in the switch_to() path, which suggests that we
> know system call is not a full barrier.
> 
> Also looking at the architecture, section 1.5 which talks about the
> synchronisation that occurs on system calls, defines nothing in terms of
> memory ordering, and includes a programming note which says "Unlike the
> Synchronize instruction, a context synchronizing operation does not affect the
> order in which storage accesses are performed.".
> 

Thank you, Michael. So IIUC, "sc" and "rfid" just imply an execution
barrier like "isync" rather than a memory barrier. So memory barriers
are needed if a system call need a memory ordering guarantee.

Regards,
Boqun

> Whether that's actually how it's implemented I don't know, I'll see if I can
> find out.
> 
> cheers
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-26  8:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-14 15:55 [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 0/6] atomics: powerpc: Implement relaxed/acquire/release variants of some atomics Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:55 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 1/6] powerpc: atomic: Make *xchg and *cmpxchg a full barrier Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 20:19   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-14 21:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-14 21:44       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15  0:53         ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15  1:22           ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15  3:07             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15  3:07           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15  4:48             ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15 16:30               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-19  0:19                 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15  3:11           ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15  3:33             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15 10:35         ` Will Deacon
2015-10-15 14:40           ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15 14:50           ` Will Deacon
2015-10-15 16:29             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15 15:42           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15 14:49     ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15 16:16       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-20  7:15     ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-20  9:21       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-20 21:28         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-21  8:18           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-21 19:36             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-26  2:06               ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-26  2:20               ` Michael Ellerman
2015-10-26  8:55                 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2015-10-26  3:20             ` Paul Mackerras
2015-10-26  8:58               ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-21  8:45           ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-21 19:35             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-21 19:48               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-22 12:07                 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-24 10:26                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-24 11:53                     ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-25 13:14                       ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:55 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 2/6] atomics: Add test for atomic operations with _relaxed variants Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:55 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 3/6] atomics: Allow architectures to define their own __atomic_op_* helpers Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:55 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 4/6] powerpc: atomic: Implement atomic{,64}_*_return_* variants Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:56 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 5/6] powerpc: atomic: Implement xchg_* and atomic{,64}_xchg_* variants Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:56 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 6/6] powerpc: atomic: Implement cmpxchg{,64}_* and atomic{,64}_cmpxchg_* variants Boqun Feng

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