From: Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>
To: Sowmini Varadhan <sowmini.varadhan@oracle.com>
Cc: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
<davem@davemloft.net>, Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
<linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] Crypto kernel tls socket
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 13:43:12 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151123214312.GA2319382@devbig217.prn1.facebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151123192730.GB30089@oracle.com>
On 11/23/15 02:27 PM, Sowmini Varadhan wrote:
> On (11/23/15 09:43), Dave Watson wrote:
> > Currently gcm(aes) represents ~80% of our SSL connections.
> >
> > Userspace interface:
> >
> > 1) A transform and op socket are created using the userspace crypto interface
> > 2) Setsockopt ALG_SET_AUTHSIZE is called
> > 3) Setsockopt ALG_SET_KEY is called twice, since we need both send/recv keys
> > 4) ALG_SET_IV cmsgs are sent twice, since we need both send/recv IVs.
> > To support userspace heartbeats, changeciphersuite, etc, we would also need
> > to get these back out, use them, then reset them via CMSG.
> > 5) ALG_SET_OP cmsg is overloaded to mean FD to read/write from.
>
> [from patch 0/2:]
> > If a non application-data TLS record is seen, it is left on the TCP
> > socket and an error is returned on the ALG socket, and the record is
> > left for userspace to manage.
>
> I'm trying to see how your approach would fit with the RDS-type of
> use-case. RDS-TCP is mostly similar in concept to kcm,
> except that rds has its own header for multiplexing, and has no
> dependancy on BPF for basic things like re-assembling the datagram.
> If I were to try to use this for RDS-TCP, the tls_tcp_read_sock() logic
> would be merged into the recv_actor callback for RDS, right? Thus tls
> control-plane message could be seen in the middle of the
> data-stream, so we really have to freeze the processing of the data
> stream till the control-plane message is processed?
Correct.
> In the tls.c example that you have, the opfd is generated from
> the accept() on the AF_ALG socket- how would this work if I wanted
> my opfd to be a PF_RDS or a PF_KCM or similar?
For kcm, opfd is the fd you would pass along in kcm_attach.
For rds, it looks like you'd want to use opfd as the sock instead of
the new one created by sock_create_kern in rds_tcp_conn_connect.
> One concern is that this patchset provides a solution for the "80%"
> case but what about the other 20% (and the non x86 platforms)?
Almost all the rest are aes sha. The actual encrypt / decrypt code
would be similar to this previous patch:
http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=140662647602192&w=2
The software routines in gcm(aes) should work for all platforms
without aesni.
> E.g., if I get a cipher-suite request outside the aes-ni, what would
> happen (punt to uspace?)
>
> --Sowmini
Right, bind() would fail and you would fallback to uspace.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-23 21:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-23 17:42 [RFC PATCH 0/2] Crypto kernel TLS socket Dave Watson
2015-11-23 17:42 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] Crypto support aesni rfc5288 Dave Watson
2015-11-24 10:30 ` Herbert Xu
2015-11-23 17:43 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] Crypto kernel tls socket Dave Watson
2015-11-23 19:27 ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-11-23 21:43 ` Dave Watson [this message]
2015-11-23 21:59 ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-11-24 10:34 ` Herbert Xu
2015-11-24 11:00 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-11-24 11:20 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-24 11:50 ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-11-24 11:54 ` Phil Sutter
2015-11-24 12:36 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-11-24 12:37 ` Stephan Mueller
2015-11-23 19:10 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Crypto kernel TLS socket Hannes Frederic Sowa
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