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From: Andreas Kemnade <andreas@kemnade.info>
To: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
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	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	tomeu@tomeuvizoso.net
Subject: Re: [Gta04-owner] [PATCH 0/4] UART slave device support - version 4
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 07:32:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160119073231.19f16f28@kemnade.info> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160118220319.051c9cc0@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

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On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 22:03:19 +0000
One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:

> > > Your user space can do it (as most Android does).
> > 
> > How can it do it in automatically in a standardized way without need for daemon support?
> 
> You don't need to - it can be device specific. In Android it usually is.
> I've never understood why low end devices don't also abstract user space
> descriptions of power control into DT nodes as well as kernel properties ?
> 
Well, on these android devices, they are only intended to run android and
have another abstraction layer where you can hide things.
If doing actions on opening or closing a tty should not be implemented in
kernel space, then an alternative I see would be to at least have proper
rfkill support for bluetooth and gps in kernel. Then userspace can at least
can talk to a standardised interface. So userspace just has to implement
generic things.

That would mean for the kernel drivers needed:


W2CBW003/bluetooth:
   map the rfkill to just a simple regulator

W2SG0004/gps:
   being notified about incoming data
     a) the nice way: getting it from the tty/tty_port layer
 	(but requiring changes at generic kernel code)
        or
     b) the ugly way:
        remux the data line as a gpio and simply look for state
        changes during rfkill call (probably only during unblock)
	The first characters after power on would probably be lost
        toggle a gpio depending on the desired and detected state

Regards,
Andreas

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-19  6:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-11  1:56 NeilBrown
2015-05-11  1:56 ` [PATCH 4/4] tty/slaves: add a driver to power on/off UART attached devices NeilBrown
2015-05-11  1:56 ` [PATCH 1/4] TTY: use class_find_device to find port in uart_suspend/resume NeilBrown
2015-05-11  1:56 ` [PATCH 2/4] TTY: split tty_register_device_attr into 'initialize' and 'add' parts NeilBrown
2015-05-11  1:56 ` [PATCH 3/4] TTY: add support for uart_slave devices NeilBrown
2015-05-12  8:31   ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-12 23:35     ` NeilBrown
2015-05-31 22:01 ` [PATCH 0/4] UART slave device support - version 4 Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-08-07 13:01 ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-11 23:20   ` NeilBrown
2015-08-28  5:52     ` [Gta04-owner] " Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-08-28  7:02       ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-28  9:43         ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
2015-08-28 11:04           ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-28 20:04             ` Christ van Willegen
2016-01-12 13:06 ` Tomeu Vizoso
2016-01-12 13:28   ` [Gta04-owner] " H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-13 19:15     ` Mark Rutland
     [not found]       ` <1CD6CA14-AE4F-444F-A9A2-CF9B9485F2DC@goldelico.com>
2016-01-15 11:01         ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-15 15:05           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 15:43             ` Andrey Vostrikov
2016-01-15 16:08               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 17:16                 ` Peter Hurley
2016-01-15 17:32                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 17:43                     ` Peter Hurley
2016-01-15 17:58                       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 19:23                         ` Peter Hurley
2016-01-15 21:24                           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 22:40                   ` Rob Herring
2016-01-16  7:34                     ` Vostrikov Andrey
2016-01-16 23:31                       ` Rob Herring
2016-01-17  8:53                         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-17 14:19                           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-17 17:57                             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-17 19:38                               ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-18  8:17                                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-18  8:56                                   ` Andrey Vostrikov
2016-01-18 11:52                                     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-18 11:19                                   ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-18 20:58                                     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-18 22:03                                       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-18 22:32                                         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-19 14:25                                           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-20 17:33                                             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-20 16:11                                           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-20 17:46                                             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-20 18:03                                               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-22 15:45                                                 ` Tomeu Vizoso
2016-01-22 16:49                                                   ` Rob Herring
2016-01-22 20:12                                                   ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-23  7:40                                                     ` Andreas Kemnade
2016-01-23 12:19                                                     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-23 17:28                                                       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-23 22:04                                                         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-24 17:10                                                           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-25 10:36                                                             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-19  6:32                                         ` Andreas Kemnade [this message]
2016-01-20 19:38                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-01-20 20:09                         ` Vostrikov Andrey
2016-01-15 16:12             ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-15 19:16               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 19:40         ` Pavel Machek
2016-01-15 20:35           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-12 21:28   ` NeilBrown
2016-01-13 19:00     ` Pavel Machek

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