From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Wang Nan <wangnan0@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/10] perf report: Apply --percent-limit to callchains also
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 11:57:54 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160202145754.GC32488@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160202143513.GB4627@danjae.kornet>
Em Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 11:35:13PM +0900, Namhyung Kim escreveu:
> On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 11:27:34AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > Em Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 11:15:35PM +0900, Namhyung Kim escreveu:
> > > On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 10:55:34AM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > > > Em Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 10:05:37PM +0900, Namhyung Kim escreveu:
> > > > > Hi Arnaldo,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 05:19:36PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > > > > > Em Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:40:50AM +0900, Namhyung Kim escreveu:
> > > > > > > Currently --percent-limit option only works for hist entries. However
> > > > > > > it'd be better to have same effect to callchains as well
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Documentation needs updating? It says:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --percent-limit::
> > > > > > Do not show entries which have an overhead under that percent.
> > > > > > (Default: 0).
> > > > >
> > > > > Right. Is it ok to you?
> > > > >
> > > > > --percent-limit::
> > > > > Do not show entries and callchains which have an overhead under that
> > > > > percent. (Default: 0).
> > > >
> > > > Ok, but is the default zero?
> > > >
> > > > That was what I was alluding to, as as soon as I applied the patch that
> > > > made callchains honour this limit, about 60% of the entries in the
> > > > particular perf.data file I was 'perf report'ing lost its '+' (callchain
> > > > expansion) signs.
> > >
> > > Yes, and this is what I want to say too. :)
> > >
> > > The default value of percent limit is different for hist entry and
> > > callchains. For hist entry the default is 0, and for callchains it's
> > > 0.5%. But using --percent-limit option, we can set both at once from
> > > now on.
> > >
> > > Before this patchset, percent limit of callchains didn't checked.
> > > Once applied, users can see callchains are disppeared like your case.
> > > This is just because 0.5% of the default limit for callchains is too
> > > high IMHO - I guess it was originally set for 'fractal' mode which
> > > calculates relative percents. So I proposed to change the default in
> > > the patch 10/10 but Andi thoughts 0.005% was too small. We need to
> > > choose other value like 0.05% ?
> >
> > Unsure about the limit, but please fold the nice explanation you gave
> > about the limits for hist entries and callchains and how the defaults
> > are different, and how they can be set at once using --percent-limit.
>
> Ok, will do.
>
> >
> > Also, would it be overengineering to allow optionally set two limits,
> > one for hists and one for callchains? I.e. like:
> >
> > --percent-limit 1,0.07
> >
> > Then:
> >
> > --percent-limit 0.8
> >
> > would be the same as:
> >
> > --percent-limit 0.8,0.8
>
> Originally, the percent limit (threshold) for callchains can be set
> using -g/--call-graph option. What Andi asked is to set both limits
> using a single option. Not sure it's worth adding another way to
> specify the callchain limit.
Ok, having that in the docs, i.e. when documenting --percent-limit
mention that the callchain limit can be set via the -g option as well
will help sort out confusion when trying to set those limits.
And have you considered setting these limits dynamicly? I.e. in the TUI?
- Arnaldo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-02 14:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-27 15:40 [PATCHSET 00/10] perf tools: Apply percent-limit to callchains (v2) Namhyung Kim
2016-01-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 01/10] perf hists: Fix min callchain hits calculation Namhyung Kim
2016-02-03 10:21 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Namhyung Kim
2016-01-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 02/10] perf hists: Update hists' total period when adding entries Namhyung Kim
2016-02-03 10:21 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Namhyung Kim
2016-01-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 03/10] perf report: Apply --percent-limit to callchains also Namhyung Kim
2016-02-01 20:19 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-02-02 13:05 ` Namhyung Kim
2016-02-02 13:55 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-02-02 14:15 ` Namhyung Kim
2016-02-02 14:27 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-02-02 14:35 ` Namhyung Kim
2016-02-02 14:57 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2016-02-02 15:03 ` Namhyung Kim
2016-02-03 10:22 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Namhyung Kim
2016-01-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 04/10] perf report: Get rid of hist_entry__callchain_fprintf() Namhyung Kim
2016-02-03 10:22 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Namhyung Kim
2016-01-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 05/10] perf tools: Pass parent_samples to __callchain__fprintf_graph() Namhyung Kim
2016-02-03 10:22 ` [tip:perf/core] perf callchain: " tip-bot for Namhyung Kim
2016-01-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 06/10] perf report: Fix percent display in callchains on --stdio Namhyung Kim
2016-02-03 10:22 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Namhyung Kim
2016-01-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 07/10] perf hists browser: Fix dump to show correct callchain style Namhyung Kim
2016-02-03 10:23 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Namhyung Kim
2016-01-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 08/10] perf hists browser: Pass parent_total to callchain print functions Namhyung Kim
2016-02-03 10:23 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Namhyung Kim
2016-01-27 15:40 ` [PATCH 09/10] perf hists browser: Fix percent display in callchains Namhyung Kim
2016-02-03 10:24 ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Namhyung Kim
2016-01-27 15:40 ` [RFC/PATCH 10/10] perf tools: Change default calchain percent limit to 0.005% Namhyung Kim
2016-01-27 16:06 ` Andi Kleen
2016-01-27 23:34 ` Namhyung Kim
2016-01-28 8:14 ` [PATCHSET 00/10] perf tools: Apply percent-limit to callchains (v2) Jiri Olsa
2016-01-28 8:42 ` Namhyung Kim
2016-01-28 8:16 ` Jiri Olsa
2016-01-28 10:14 ` Namhyung Kim
2016-01-28 10:16 ` Namhyung Kim
2016-01-28 12:12 ` Jiri Olsa
2016-01-28 12:24 ` Namhyung Kim
2016-01-28 19:52 ` Jiri Olsa
2016-01-29 21:00 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-01-30 13:52 ` Namhyung Kim
2016-02-03 10:24 ` [tip:perf/core] perf report: Don' t show blank lines if entry has no callchain tip-bot for Namhyung Kim
2016-02-01 21:49 [GIT PULL 00/10] perf/core callchains improvements and fixes Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-02-01 21:49 ` [PATCH 03/10] perf report: Apply --percent-limit to callchains also Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
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