From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>,
Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
Graham Whaley <graham.whaley@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Kernel docs: muddying the waters a bit
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 08:17:09 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160303081709.5907bcd8@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160303143425.2361dea2@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 14:34:25 +0000
One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> We only have docbook because it was the tool of choice rather a lot of
> years ago to then get useful output formats. It was just inherited when
> borrowed the original scripts from Gnome/Gtk. It's still the most
> effective way IMHO of building big structured documents out of the kernel.
...except that we haven't used it that way. Instead, we make a whole
bunch of smaller, partially structured document silos.
> The Gtk people long ago rewrote the original document script into a real
> tool so they have some different and maintained tools that are close to
> equivalent and already have some markdown support. Before we go off and
> re-invent the wheel it might be worth just borrowing their wheel and
> tweaking it as needed ? In particular they can generate help indexes so
> that the entire output becomes nicely browsable with an HTML based help
> browser.
Well, not inventing the wheel was kind of the motivation behind much of
this effort; I got kind of worried watching us trying to cobble more
functionality into our existing house-of-cards documentation system.
Sphinx is a well-established, heavily used, and well supported system;
using it would not be an exercise in wheel reinvention. As far as I can
tell, it does everything we need (with some open questions about table
support), lets us drop the whole DocBook toolchain dependency, and move to
a much better-supported setup than we have now. Plus we get much nicer
output, index generation, cross-references between documents, and the
ability to write documents in a lightweight markup language. Seems like a
win.
I assume you're referring to gtk-doc? It's web page
(http://www.gtk.org/gtk-doc/) starts by noting that it's "a bit awkward to
setup and use"; they recommend looking at Doxygen instead. So I guess I'm
not really sure what it offers that merits throwing another option into
the mix now? What am I missing?
Thanks,
jon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-03 15:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-13 21:53 Jonathan Corbet
2016-02-14 0:57 ` Keith Packard
2016-02-14 12:27 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-02-14 16:27 ` Keith Packard
2016-02-17 22:14 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-02-17 22:29 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-02-18 9:11 ` Jani Nikula
2016-02-18 9:24 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-02-18 10:26 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-02-18 11:23 ` Jani Nikula
2016-02-18 12:04 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-02-18 12:07 ` Hans Verkuil
2016-02-18 12:44 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-02-18 13:34 ` Patrick Boettcher
2016-02-18 13:01 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-02-18 14:39 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-02-16 8:25 ` Jani Nikula
2016-02-16 16:08 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-02-16 17:11 ` Jani Nikula
2016-02-16 19:13 ` Keith Packard
2016-02-16 19:59 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-02-17 0:01 ` Keith Packard
2016-03-03 14:03 ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-03 14:13 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-03-03 14:34 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-03-03 15:17 ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2016-03-03 15:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-03-03 18:50 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-03 23:23 ` Keith Packard
2016-03-04 1:19 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-04 8:29 ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-04 8:59 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2016-03-04 12:59 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-04 14:09 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2016-03-06 2:29 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-06 23:29 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2016-03-07 8:48 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2016-03-07 12:15 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-07 12:19 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-04 7:28 ` Russel Winder
2016-03-04 7:46 ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-08 4:53 ` Russel Winder
[not found] ` <CAKeHnO6sSV1x2xh_HgbD5ddZ8rp+SVvbdjVhczhudc9iv_-UCQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-08 9:49 ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-08 11:29 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
[not found] ` <CAKeHnO7R25knFH07+3trdi0ZotsrEE+5ZzDZXdx33+DUW=q2Ug@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-08 13:39 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-08 15:39 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-09 21:27 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-10 10:25 ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-10 15:21 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-13 15:33 ` Markus Heiser
2016-04-08 15:12 ` Markus Heiser
2016-04-12 9:18 ` Hans Verkuil
2016-04-12 15:46 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-04-18 9:49 ` Markus Heiser
2016-04-27 14:28 ` Grant Likely
2016-05-03 14:31 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-03 15:54 ` Keith Packard
2016-05-04 9:34 ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-04 9:58 ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-04 12:40 ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-04 13:41 ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-04 15:09 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-05-04 13:43 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-04 14:18 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-04 14:57 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-05-04 15:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-04 16:32 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-05-04 15:44 ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-04 16:38 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-04 15:55 ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-04 16:13 ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-04 16:50 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-04 16:59 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-05-04 17:57 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-05 13:02 ` Jonathan Corbet
2016-05-05 13:23 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-06 11:23 ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-06 11:44 ` Markus Heiser
[not found] ` <20160506083529.31ad2fa0@recife.lan>
[not found] ` <BAE3C147-6C21-4242-BD3C-8989C1626E10@darmarit.de>
[not found] ` <20160506104210.12197832@recife.lan>
2016-05-06 14:27 ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-06 15:06 ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-06 15:23 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-06 15:35 ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-06 15:52 ` Jani Nikula
2016-05-06 15:14 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-04 16:15 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-05-06 10:05 ` Markus Heiser
[not found] ` <20160506080304.56307066@recife.lan>
2016-05-06 16:26 ` Markus Heiser
2016-05-06 17:06 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
[not found] ` <20160412105850.50e02108@recife.lan>
2016-04-18 8:10 ` Markus Heiser
2016-04-18 11:16 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
[not found] ` <CAKeHnO7_7k8Qc5Jmu_x2OzAVT4YXxW8PSe_m6QUP-8V7XxbTVw@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-08 13:30 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-03-08 13:58 ` Jani Nikula
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2016-03-09 8:57 ` Jani Nikula
2016-03-07 3:48 ` Jonathan Corbet
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