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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Chatre, Reinette" <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	"Jacob Pan" <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>,
	"Josh Triplett" <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	"Ross Green" <rgkernel@gmail.com>,
	"John Stultz" <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Lai Jiangshan" <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	dipankar@in.ibm.com, "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Darren Hart" <dvhart@linux.intel.com>,
	"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	"Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"pranith kumar" <bobby.prani@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: rcu_preempt self-detected stall on CPU from 4.5-rc3, since 3.17
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 08:13:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160328061350.GC6344@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1124128277.37541.1459131825120.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com>

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 02:23:45AM +0000, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:

> >> But, you need hotplug for this to happen, right?
> > 
> > My understanding is that this seems to be detection of failures to be
> > awakened for a long time on idle CPUs. It therefore seems to be more
> > idle-related than cpu hotplug-related. I'm not saying that there is
> > no issue with hotplug, just that the investigation so far seems to
> > target mostly idle systems, AFAIK without stressing hotplug.

Paul has stated that without hotplug he cannot trigger this.

> > set_nr_if_polling() returns true if the ti->flags read has the
> > _TIF_NEED_RESCHED bit set, which will skip the IPI.

POLLING_NR, as per your later comment

> > But it seems weird. The side that calls set_nr_if_polling()
> > does the following:
> > 1) llist_add(&p->wake_entry, &cpu_rq(cpu)->wake_list)
> > 2) set_nr_if_polling(rq->idle)
> > 3) (don't do smp_send_reschedule(cpu) since set_nr_if_polling() returned
> >   true)
> > 
> > The idle loop does:
> > 1) __current_set_polling()
> > 2) __current_clr_polling()
> > 3) smp_mb__after_atomic()
> > 4) sched_ttwu_pending()
> > 5) schedule_preempt_disabled()
> >   -> This will clear the TIF_NEED_RESCHED flag
> > 
> > While the idle loop is in sched_ttwu_pending(), after
> > it has done the llist_del_all() (thus has grabbed all the
> > list entries), TIF_NEED_RESCHED is still set.

> > If both list_all and

llist_add() ?

> > set_nr_if_polling() are called right after the llist_del_all(), we
> > will end up in a situation where we have an entry in the list, but
> > there won't be any reschedule sent on the idle CPU until something
> > else awakens it. On a _very_ idle CPU, this could take some time.

Can't happen, as per clearing of POLLING_NR before doing llist_del_all()
and the latter being a full memory barrier.

> > set_nr_and_not_polling() don't seem to have the same issue, because
> > it does not return true if TIF_NEED_RESCHED is observed as being
> > already set: it really just depends on the state of the TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG
> > bit.
> > 
> > Am I missing something important ?
> 
> Well, it seems that the test for _TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG in set_nr_if_polling()
> just before the test for _TIF_NEED_RESCHED should take care of it: while in
> sched_ttwu_pending within the idle loop, the TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG should be
> cleared, thus causing set_nr_if_polling to return false.

Right, clue in the name: Set NEED_RESCHED _IF_ POLLING_NR (is set).

> I'm slightly concerned about the lack of smp_mb__after_atomic()
> between the TIF_NEED_RESCHED flag being cleared within schedule_preempt_disabled
> and the TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG being set in the following loop. Indeed, clear_bit()
> does not have a compiler barrier,

Urgh, it really should, as all atomic ops. set_bit() very much has a
memory clobber in, see below.

> nor processor-level memory barriers
> (of course, the processor memory barrier should not really matter on
> x86-64 due to lock prefix).

Right.

> Moreover, TIF_NEED_RESCHED is bit 3 on x86-64,
> whereas TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG is bit 21. Those are in two different bytes of
> the thread flags, and thus set/cleared as different addresses by clear_bit()
> acting on an immediate "nr" argument.
> 
> If we have any state where TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG is set before TIF_NEED_RESCHED
> is cleared within the idle thread, we could end up missing a needed resched IPI.

Yes, that would be bad. No objection to adding smp_mb__before_atomic()
before the initial __current_set_polling(). Although that's not going to
make a difference for x86_64 as you already noted.

> Another question: why are set_nr_if_polling and set_nr_and_not_polling two
> different implementations ?

Because they're fundamentally two different things. The one
conditionally sets NEED_RESCHED, the other unconditionally sets it.

> Could they be combined ?

Can, yes, will not be pretty nor clear code though.


---
 arch/x86/include/asm/bitops.h | 6 ++++--
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/bitops.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/bitops.h
index 7766d1cf096e..5345784d5e41 100644
--- a/arch/x86/include/asm/bitops.h
+++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/bitops.h
@@ -112,11 +112,13 @@ clear_bit(long nr, volatile unsigned long *addr)
 	if (IS_IMMEDIATE(nr)) {
 		asm volatile(LOCK_PREFIX "andb %1,%0"
 			: CONST_MASK_ADDR(nr, addr)
-			: "iq" ((u8)~CONST_MASK(nr)));
+			: "iq" ((u8)~CONST_MASK(nr))
+			: "memory");
 	} else {
 		asm volatile(LOCK_PREFIX "btr %1,%0"
 			: BITOP_ADDR(addr)
-			: "Ir" (nr));
+			: "Ir" (nr)
+			: "memory");
 	}
 }
 

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-28  6:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-09 10:11 Ross Green
2016-02-17  5:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-17 19:28   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-17 19:45     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-02-17 20:28       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-17 23:19         ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-18 11:51           ` Ross Green
2016-02-18 23:14             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-02-19  3:56               ` Ross Green
2016-02-19  4:13                 ` John Stultz
2016-02-19 17:33                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-20  4:34                     ` Ross Green
2016-02-20  6:32                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-21  5:04                         ` Ross Green
2016-02-21 18:15                           ` Ross Green
2016-02-23 20:34                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-02-23 20:55                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-23 21:28                                 ` Ross Green
2016-02-25  5:13                                   ` Ross Green
2016-02-26  0:56                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-26  1:35                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-04  5:30                                         ` Ross Green
2016-03-04 15:18                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-18 21:00                                       ` Josh Triplett
2016-03-18 23:56                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-21 16:22                                           ` Jacob Pan
2016-03-21 17:26                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-22 16:35                                               ` Chatre, Reinette
2016-03-22 17:40                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-22 21:04                                                   ` Chatre, Reinette
2016-03-22 21:19                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-23 17:15                                                       ` Chatre, Reinette
2016-03-23 18:20                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-23 18:25                                                           ` Chatre, Reinette
2016-03-23 19:50                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-25 21:24                                                           ` Chatre, Reinette
2016-03-25 21:46                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-26 12:29                                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-26 15:28                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-26 18:49                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-26 22:22                                                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-27  1:34                                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-27 13:48                                                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-27 15:40                                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-27 20:00                                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-27 20:45                                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-27 21:06                                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-28  6:25                                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-28 13:08                                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-29  0:25                                                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-29  0:28                                                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-29 13:49                                                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-30 14:55                                                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-31 15:42                                                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-04-03  8:18                                                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-05-06  6:25                                                                                                 ` Ross Green
2016-05-07 15:25                                                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-05-10  2:36                                                                                                     ` Ross Green
2016-06-30 17:52                                                                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-28  1:44                                                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-28  2:23                                                                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-28  6:13                                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-03-28 13:50                                                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-28 14:15                                                                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-27 20:53                                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-27 21:07                                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-27 20:54                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-27 21:09                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-28  6:28                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-28 13:29                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-28 15:07                                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-28 15:56                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-28 16:12                                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2016-03-28 16:29                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-30 12:58                                                     ` Boqun Feng
2016-03-30 13:30                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-30 14:15                                                         ` Boqun Feng
2016-02-19  4:22               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-02-19  5:59                 ` Ross Green

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