From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Greg Hackmann <ghackmann@google.com>
Cc: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>,
"Gustavo Padovan" <gustavo.padovan@collabora.co.uk>,
"Gustavo Padovan" <gustavo@padovan.org>,
"Daniel Stone" <daniels@collabora.com>,
"Riley Andrews" <riandrews@android.com>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
"John Harrison" <John.C.Harrison@Intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 5/8] drm/fence: add in-fences support
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 08:39:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160427063904.GH2558@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <571FD402.6050407@google.com>
On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 01:48:02PM -0700, Greg Hackmann wrote:
> On 04/26/2016 01:05 PM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> >On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 09:55:06PM +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> >>On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 08:23:46PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> >>>On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 08:40:45PM +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> >>>But really the reason for per-plane is hw composer from
> >>>Android. I don't see any point in designing an api that's needlessly
> >>>different from what the main user expects (even if it may be silly).
> >>
> >>What are they doing that can't stuff the fences into an array
> >>instead of props?
> >
> >The hw composer interface is one in-fence per plane. That's really the
> >major reason why the kernel interface is built to match. And I really
> >don't think we should diverge just because we have a slight different
> >color preference ;-)
> >
> >As long as you end up with a pile of fences somehow it'll work.
> >-Daniel
> >
>
> The relationship between layers and fences is only fuzzy and indirect
> though. The relationship is really between the buffer you're displaying on
> that layer, and the fence representing the work done to render into that
> buffer. SurfaceFlinger just happens to bundle them together inside the same
> struct hwc_layer_1 as an API convenience.
>
> Which is kind of splitting hairs as long as you have a 1-to-1 relationship
> between layers and DRM planes. But that's not always the case.
>
> A (per-CRTC?) array of fences would be more flexible. And even in the cases
> where you could make a 1-to-1 mapping between planes and fences, it's not
> that much more work for userspace to assemble those fences into an array
> anyway.
I'm ok with an array too if that's what you folks prefer (it's meant to be
used by you after all). I just don't want just 1 fence for the entire op,
forcing userspace to first merge them all together. That seems silly.
One side-effect of that is that we'd also have to rework all the internal
bits and move fences around in atomic. Which means change a pile of
drivers. Not sure that's worth it, but I'd be ok either way really.
-Daniel
--
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-27 6:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-25 22:33 [RFC v2 0/8] drm: explicit fencing support Gustavo Padovan
2016-04-25 22:33 ` [RFC v2 1/8] dma-buf/fence: add fence_collection fences Gustavo Padovan
2016-04-26 14:41 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-04-26 15:02 ` Gustavo Padovan
2016-04-27 6:36 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-04-26 15:09 ` Chris Wilson
2016-04-28 14:47 ` Gustavo Padovan
2016-04-25 22:33 ` [RFC v2 2/8] Documentation: add fence-collection to kernel DocBook Gustavo Padovan
2016-04-25 22:33 ` [RFC v2 3/8] dma-buf/sync_file: add sync_file_fences_get() Gustavo Padovan
2016-04-25 22:33 ` [RFC v2 4/8] drm/fence: allow fence waiting to be interrupted by userspace Gustavo Padovan
2016-04-25 22:33 ` [RFC v2 5/8] drm/fence: add in-fences support Gustavo Padovan
2016-04-26 10:10 ` Ville Syrjälä
2016-04-26 14:14 ` Gustavo Padovan
2016-04-26 14:36 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-04-26 16:26 ` Ville Syrjälä
2016-04-26 17:20 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-04-26 17:40 ` Ville Syrjälä
2016-04-26 18:23 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-04-26 18:55 ` Ville Syrjälä
2016-04-26 20:05 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-04-26 20:48 ` Greg Hackmann
2016-04-27 6:39 ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2016-04-28 21:28 ` Rob Clark
2016-04-29 7:48 ` Daniel Stone
2016-04-29 22:23 ` Rob Clark
2016-04-29 21:14 ` Greg Hackmann
2016-04-27 6:57 ` Daniel Stone
2016-04-28 14:36 ` Gustavo Padovan
2016-04-28 14:38 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-04-28 16:56 ` Ville Syrjälä
2016-04-28 17:43 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-04-28 17:51 ` Ville Syrjälä
2016-04-28 17:55 ` Gustavo Padovan
2016-04-28 18:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-04-28 18:17 ` Ville Syrjälä
2016-04-28 20:40 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-04-26 16:25 ` Ville Syrjälä
2016-04-25 22:33 ` [RFC v2 6/8] drm/fence: add fence to drm_pending_event Gustavo Padovan
2016-04-25 22:33 ` [RFC v2 7/8] drm/fence: add fence timeline to drm_crtc Gustavo Padovan
2016-04-26 10:12 ` Ville Syrjälä
2016-04-26 14:23 ` Gustavo Padovan
2016-04-26 16:34 ` Ville Syrjälä
2016-04-27 8:23 ` Daniel Stone
2016-04-25 22:33 ` [RFC v2 8/8] drm/fence: add out-fences support Gustavo Padovan
2016-04-26 14:53 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-04-28 15:23 ` Gustavo Padovan
[not found] ` <CAHbf0-HVNM=akFaE54U6B=51eegwumFmH=dUv+HHbnGOgGD=nw@mail.gmail.com>
2016-04-26 6:30 ` [RFC v2 0/8] drm: explicit fencing support Daniel Vetter
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