From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753418AbcEMPCd (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 May 2016 11:02:33 -0400 Received: from lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk ([81.2.110.251]:41274 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752960AbcEMPCb (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 May 2016 11:02:31 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 16:01:42 +0100 From: One Thousand Gnomes To: Sebastian Frias Cc: "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" , Michal Hocko , Mason , linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton , Linus Torvalds , LKML Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: add config option to select the initial overcommit mode Message-ID: <20160513160142.2cc7d695@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <5735D7FC.3070409@laposte.net> References: <5731CC6E.3080807@laposte.net> <20160513080458.GF20141@dhcp22.suse.cz> <573593EE.6010502@free.fr> <5735A3DE.9030100@laposte.net> <20160513120042.GK20141@dhcp22.suse.cz> <5735CAE5.5010104@laposte.net> <935da2a3-1fda-bc71-48a5-bb212db305de@gmail.com> <5735D7FC.3070409@laposte.net> Organization: Intel Corporation X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 13 May 2016 15:34:52 +0200 Sebastian Frias wrote: > Hi Austin, > > On 05/13/2016 03:11 PM, Austin S. Hemmelgarn wrote: > > On 2016-05-13 08:39, Sebastian Frias wrote: > >> > >> My point is that it seems to be possible to deal with such conditions in a more controlled way, ie: a way that is less random and less abrupt. > > There's an option for the OOM-killer to just kill the allocating task instead of using the scoring heuristic. This is about as deterministic as things can get though. > > By the way, why does it has to "kill" anything in that case? > I mean, shouldn't it just tell the allocating task that there's not enough memory by letting malloc return NULL? Just turn off overcommit and it will do that. With overcommit disabled the kernel will not hand out address space in excess of memory plus swap. Alan