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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@lip6.fr>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	"Nicolas Palix (LIG)" <Nicolas.Palix@imag.fr>,
	Gilles Muller <Gilles.Muller@lip6.fr>,
	mmarek@suse.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	markivx@codeaurora.org, stephen.boyd@linaro.org,
	zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com, broonie@kernel.org,
	ming.lei@canonical.com, tiwai@suse.de, johannes@sipsolutions.net,
	chunkeey@googlemail.com, hauke@hauke-m.de,
	jwboyer@fedoraproject.org, dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com,
	dwmw2@infradead.org, jslaby@suse.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, deepa.kernel@gmail.com,
	cocci@systeme.lip6.fr
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/8] coccicheck: enable parmap support
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 00:14:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160621221454.GF25646@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1606212342040.2040@localhost6.localdomain6>

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:44:09PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:32:11PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:00:53PM +0200, Nicolas Palix (LIG) wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Le 21/06/16 à 22:43, Julia Lawall a écrit :
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:17:38PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>Coccinelle has had parmap support since 1.0.2, this means
> > > > > >>>>it supports --jobs, enabling built-in multithreaded functionality,
> > > > > >>>>instead of needing one to script it out. Just look for --jobs
> > > > > >>>>in the help output to determine if this is supported.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>Also enable the load balancing to be dynamic, so that if a
> > > > > >>>>thread finishes early we keep feeding it.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>Note: now that we have all things handled for us, redirect stderr to
> > > > > >>>>stdout as well to capture any possible errors or warnings issued by
> > > > > >>>>coccinelle.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>If --jobs is not supported we fallback to the old mechanism.
> > > > > >>>>This also now accepts DEBUG_FILE= to specify where you want
> > > > > >>>>stderr to be redirected to, by default we redirect stderr to
> > > > > >>>>/dev/null.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>Why do you want to do something different for standard error in the parmap
> > > > > >>>and nonparmap case?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>We should just deprecate non-parmap later.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >that's not really getting at the point.  I like the DEBUG_FILE= solution.
> > > > > >I don't like merging stderr and stdout.  So you've put what to my mind is
> > > > > >the good solution only in the deprecated case (to my understanding of
> > > > > >the commit message).
> > > > > 
> > > > > I agree. You're not just "enabling parmap support". You're
> > > > > also changing how messages to stderr are handled.
> > > > > Maybe add the DEBUG_FILE mechanism in a separate patch for both
> > > > > modes (parmap and non-parmap).
> > > > 
> > > > I'd prefer to just rip out non-parmap support and bump coccinelle
> > > > requiremetns to at least 1.0.3, thoughts?
> > > 
> > > There are already too many changes in this patch series.
> > > 
> > > Also, I don't know what the 0-day people would find convenient.
> > 
> > I'd really prefer to not deal with supporting DEBUG_FILE  for non-parmap
> > case due to the way parallelism is supported there, it uses wait(1) to
> > wait on the shell, and for spawning this nasty thing:
> > 
> > eval "$@ --max $NPROC --index $i &"
> > 
> > Specially since we are likely to be able to deprecate this sooner
> > rather than later I see little point in adding DEBUG_FILE into this
> > mess.
> 
> Sorry, I didn't realize there was parallelism without parmap. 

Yea :( so is the change OK as-is then, only I need to update the commit log?

> My thought 
> was that if someone is running Coccinelle on only one core, then why force 
> them to use parmap.

Oh but that's different feedback. Sure, but why should that be an issue ?
It would seem that coccinelle would just do the right thing with -j 1 used.

> Coccinelle could of course be updated to not use 
> parmap when the number of cores is 1.

:) Single CPU systems are probably odd bests these days, either way I can
update the script to avoid parmap if number of cpus is 1 since I'm respinning.

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-21 22:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-21 19:21 [PATCH v3 0/8] coccicheck: modernize Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-21 19:21 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] coccicheck: move spatch binary check up Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-21 20:34   ` Nicolas Palix (LIG)
2016-06-21 19:21 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] coccicheck: make SPFLAGS more useful Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-22 20:39   ` Nicolas Palix (LIG)
2016-06-21 19:21 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] coccicheck: enable parmap support Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-21 20:17   ` Julia Lawall
2016-06-21 20:39     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-21 20:43       ` Julia Lawall
2016-06-21 20:54         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-21 21:10           ` Julia Lawall
2016-06-21 21:27             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-21 21:31               ` Julia Lawall
2016-06-21 21:00         ` Nicolas Palix (LIG)
2016-06-21 21:28           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-21 21:32             ` Julia Lawall
2016-06-21 21:39               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-21 21:44                 ` Julia Lawall
2016-06-21 22:14                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2016-06-22  5:25                     ` Julia Lawall
2016-06-22 15:10                       ` [Cocci] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-22 19:47                         ` Julia Lawall
2016-06-21 19:21 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] coccicheck: replace --very-quiet with --quit when debugging Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-21 19:21 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] scripts: add Linux .cocciconfig for coccinelle Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-21 20:29   ` Julia Lawall
2016-06-21 23:43     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-22  5:53       ` Julia Lawall
2016-06-21 21:07   ` Nicolas Palix (LIG)
2016-06-21 21:12     ` Julia Lawall
2016-06-21 23:38       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-22  5:51         ` Julia Lawall
2016-06-21 19:21 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] coccicheck: add support for requring a coccinelle version Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-21 21:11   ` Nicolas Palix (LIG)
2016-06-21 19:21 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] coccicheck: refer to coccicheck bottest wiki for documentation Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-21 21:14   ` Nicolas Palix (LIG)
2016-06-21 21:18     ` Julia Lawall
2016-06-22  0:07       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-22  5:56         ` Julia Lawall
2016-06-21 19:21 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] scripts/coccinelle: require coccinelle >= 1.0.4 on device_node_continue.cocci Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-21 20:36   ` Julia Lawall
2016-06-21 21:17     ` Nicolas Palix (LIG)
2016-06-21 20:13 ` [PATCH v3 0/8] coccicheck: modernize Julia Lawall
2016-06-21 20:51   ` [Cocci] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-21 21:02     ` Julia Lawall
2016-06-21 21:21       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-21 21:30         ` Julia Lawall
2016-06-21 21:34           ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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