From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752595AbcFVMrb (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Jun 2016 08:47:31 -0400 Received: from outbound1.eu.mailhop.org ([52.28.251.132]:47274 "EHLO outbound1.eu.mailhop.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752048AbcFVMr1 (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Jun 2016 08:47:27 -0400 X-MHO-User: 75063dae-3877-11e6-ac92-3142cfe117f2 X-Report-Abuse-To: https://support.duocircle.com/support/solutions/articles/5000540958-duocircle-standard-smtp-abuse-information X-Originating-IP: 74.99.78.160 X-Mail-Handler: DuoCircle Outbound SMTP X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.6.8 io 4C33C800BF Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 12:47:07 +0000 From: Jason Cooper To: kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com Cc: Ingo Molnar , Kees Cook , Thomas Garnier , Andy Lutomirski , x86@kernel.org, Borislav Petkov , Baoquan He , Yinghai Lu , Juergen Gross , Matt Fleming , Toshi Kani , Andrew Morton , Dan Williams , "Kirill A. Shutemov" , Dave Hansen , Xiao Guangrong , Martin Schwidefsky , "Aneesh Kumar K.V" , Alexander Kuleshov , Alexander Popov , Dave Young , Joerg Roedel , Lv Zheng , Mark Salter , Dmitry Vyukov , Stephen Smalley , Boris Ostrovsky , Christian Borntraeger , Jan Beulich , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v7 0/9] x86/mm: memory area address KASLR Message-ID: <20160622124707.GC9922@io.lakedaemon.net> References: <1466556426-32664-1-git-send-email-keescook@chromium.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1466556426-32664-1-git-send-email-keescook@chromium.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hey Kees, On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 05:46:57PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote: > Notable problems that needed solving: ... > - Reasonable entropy is needed early at boot before get_random_bytes() > is available. This series is targetting x86, which typically has RDRAND/RDSEED instructions. Are you referring to other arches? Older x86? Also, isn't this the same requirement for base address KASLR? Don't get me wrong, I want more diverse entropy sources available earlier in the boot process as well. :-) I'm just wondering what's different about this series vs base address KASLR wrt early entropy sources. thx, Jason.