From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752697AbcF3VtF (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Jun 2016 17:49:05 -0400 Received: from pmta2.delivery5.ore.mailhop.org ([54.186.218.12]:64514 "EHLO pmta2.delivery5.ore.mailhop.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752630AbcF3VtD (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Jun 2016 17:49:03 -0400 X-MHO-User: 8b3ed102-3f0c-11e6-8929-8ded99d5e9d7 X-Report-Abuse-To: https://support.duocircle.com/support/solutions/articles/5000540958-duocircle-standard-smtp-abuse-information X-Originating-IP: 74.99.78.160 X-Mail-Handler: DuoCircle Outbound SMTP X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.6.8 io 3BE0D80065 Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 21:48:56 +0000 From: Jason Cooper To: Andy Lutomirski Cc: Kees Cook , Ard Biesheuvel , Thomas Garnier , "kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com" , Ingo Molnar , Andy Lutomirski , "x86@kernel.org" , Borislav Petkov , Baoquan He , Yinghai Lu , Juergen Gross , Matt Fleming , Toshi Kani , Andrew Morton , Dan Williams , "Kirill A. Shutemov" , Dave Hansen , Xiao Guangrong , Martin Schwidefsky , "Aneesh Kumar K.V" , Alexander Kuleshov , Alexander Popov , Dave Young , Joerg Roedel , Lv Zheng , Mark Salter , Dmitry Vyukov , Stephen Smalley , Boris Ostrovsky , Christian Borntraeger , Jan Beulich , LKML , Jonathan Corbet , "linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: devicetree random-seed properties, was: "Re: [PATCH v7 0/9] x86/mm: memory area address KASLR" Message-ID: <20160630214856.GI9922@io.lakedaemon.net> References: <20160623193358.GL9922@io.lakedaemon.net> <20160624011115.GU9922@io.lakedaemon.net> <20160624160238.GV9922@io.lakedaemon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 01:40:41PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Kees Cook wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Jason Cooper wrote: > >> Thomas, > >> > >> Sorry for wandering off the topic of your series. The big take away for > >> me is that you and Kees are concerned about x86 systems pre-RDRAND. > >> Just as I'm concerned about deployed embedded systems without bootloader > >> support for hw-rngs and so forth. > >> > >> Whatever final form the approach takes for ARM/dt, I'll make sure we can > >> extend it to legacy x86 systems. > > > > Yeah, this seems like a productive conversation to me. :) > > I have an old patch and spec I need to dust off that does this during > *very* early boot on x86 using MSRs so that kASLR can use it. I'd love to see that. ;-) thx, Jason.