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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Oleg Drokin <green@linuxhacker.ru>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nfsd: Make creates return EEXIST correctly instead of EPERM
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 16:49:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160708204925.GB11269@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8FC42FC1-AB95-4AF7-8493-EF0A34138B4A@linuxhacker.ru>

On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 12:16:14PM -0400, Oleg Drokin wrote:
> 
> On Jul 8, 2016, at 12:04 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 11:53:28AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2016-07-08 at 11:14 -0400, Oleg Drokin wrote:
> >>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Jeff Layton wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> On Thu, 2016-07-07 at 21:47 -0400, Oleg Drokin wrote:
> >>>>> It looks like we are bit overzealous about failing mkdir/create/mknod
> >>>>> with permission denied if the parent dir is not writeable.
> >>>>> Need to make sure the name does not exist first, because we need to
> >>>>> return EEXIST in that case.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Oleg Drokin <green@linuxhacker.ru>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>> A very similar problem exists with symlinks, but the patch is more
> >>>>> involved, so assuming this one is ok, I'll send a symlink one separately.
> >>>>>  fs/nfsd/nfs4proc.c |  6 +++++-
> >>>>>  fs/nfsd/vfs.c      | 11 ++++++++++-
> >>>>>  2 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> nit: subject says EPERM, but I think you mean EACCES. The mnemonic I've
> >>>> always used is that EPERM is "permanent". IOW, changing permissions
> >>>> won't ever allow the user to do something. For instance, unprivileged
> >>>> users can never chown a file, so they should get back EPERM there. When
> >>>> a directory isn't writeable on a create they should get EACCES since
> >>>> they could do the create if the directory were writeable.
> >>> 
> >>> Hm, I see, thanks.
> >>> Confusing that you get "Permission denied" from perror ;)
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Yes indeed. It's a subtle and confusing distinction.
> >> 
> >>>>> diff --git a/fs/nfsd/nfs4proc.c b/fs/nfsd/nfs4proc.c
> >>>>> index de1ff1d..0067520 100644
> >>>>> --- a/fs/nfsd/nfs4proc.c
> >>>>> +++ b/fs/nfsd/nfs4proc.c
> >>>>> @@ -605,8 +605,12 @@ nfsd4_create(struct svc_rqst *rqstp, struct nfsd4_compound_state *cstate,
> >>>>>  
> >>>>>  	fh_init(&resfh, NFS4_FHSIZE);
> >>>>>  
> >>>>> +	/*
> >>>>> +	 * We just check thta parent is accessible here, nfsd_* do their
> >>>>> +	 * own access permission checks
> >>>>> +	 */
> >>>>>  	status = fh_verify(rqstp, &cstate->current_fh, S_IFDIR,
> >>>>> -			   NFSD_MAY_CREATE);
> >>>>> +			   NFSD_MAY_EXEC);
> >>>>>  	if (status)
> >>>>>  		return status;
> >>>>>  
> >>>>> diff --git a/fs/nfsd/vfs.c b/fs/nfsd/vfs.c
> >>>>> index 6fbd81e..6a45ec6 100644
> >>>>> --- a/fs/nfsd/vfs.c
> >>>>> +++ b/fs/nfsd/vfs.c
> >>>>> @@ -1161,7 +1161,11 @@ nfsd_create(struct svc_rqst *rqstp, struct svc_fh *fhp,
> >>>>>  	if (isdotent(fname, flen))
> >>>>>  		goto out;
> >>>>>  
> >>>>> -	err = fh_verify(rqstp, fhp, S_IFDIR, NFSD_MAY_CREATE);
> >>>>> +	/*
> >>>>> +	 * Even though it is a create, first we see if we are even allowed
> >>>>> +	 * to peek inside the parent
> >>>>> +	 */
> >>>>> +	err = fh_verify(rqstp, fhp, S_IFDIR, NFSD_MAY_EXEC);
> >>>>>  	if (err)
> >>>>>  		goto out;
> >>>>>  
> >>>>> @@ -1211,6 +1215,11 @@ nfsd_create(struct svc_rqst *rqstp, struct svc_fh *fhp,
> >>>>>  		goto out; 
> >>>>>  	}
> >>>>>  
> >>>>> +	/* Now let's see if we actually have permissions to create */
> >>>>> +	err = nfsd_permission(rqstp, fhp->fh_export, dentry, NFSD_MAY_CREATE);
> >>>>> +	if (err)
> >>>>> +		goto out;
> >>>>> +
> >>>>>  	if (!(iap->ia_valid & ATTR_MODE))
> >>>>>  		iap->ia_mode = 0;
> >>>>>  	iap->ia_mode = (iap->ia_mode & S_IALLUGO) | type;
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Ouch. This means two nfsd_permission calls per create operation. If
> >>>> it's necessary for correctness then so be it, but is it actually
> >>>> documented anywhere (POSIX perhaps?) that we must prefer EEXIST over
> >>>> EACCES in this situation?
> >>> 
> >>> Opengroup manpage: http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/mkdir.html
> >>> newer version is here:
> >>> http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/
> >>> 
> >>> They tell us that we absolutely must fail with EEXIST if the name is a symlink
> >>> (so we need to lookup it anyway), and also that EEXIST is the failure code
> >>> if the path exists.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> I'm not sure that that verbiage supersedes the fact that you don't have
> >> write permissions on the directory. Does it?
> >> 
> >> ISTM that it's perfectly valid to shortcut looking up the dentry if the
> >> user doesn't have write permissions on the directory, even when the
> >> target is a symlink.
> >> 
> >> IOW, I'm not sure I see a bug here.
> > 
> > If this is causing real programs to behave incorrectly, then that may
> > matter more than the letter of the spec.  But I'm a little curious why
> > we'd be hearing about that just now--did the client or server's behavior
> > change recently?
> 
> We, on the Lustre side, have been hearing about this since 2010, (this optimization
> was enabled in 2009).
> 
> I suspect some people just complain in places that not everybody monitors.

Sure, but you said "tons of programs" do this, and off hand I can't
recall a single report.  That's weird.

Anyway, I agree that the behavior your want seems more consistent at
least.

--b.

> I tried 3.10 and it has the same problem here.
> I just tried on RHEL6 (2.6.32) and the problem is also apparent there.
> 
> Also it's confusing how you get different errors depending on if the cache is hot or not:
> [green@centos6-16 racer]$ mkdir test
> mkdir: cannot create directory `test': Permission denied
> [green@centos6-16 racer]$ ls -ld test
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jul  8 12:12 test
> [green@centos6-16 racer]$ mkdir test
> mkdir: cannot create directory `test': File exists
> 
> 
> >>> Are double permission checks really as bad for nfs? it looked like it would
> >>> call mostly into VFS so even if first call would be expensive, second call should
> >>> be really cheap?
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> It depends on the underlying fs. In most cases, you're right, but you
> >> can export things that overload the ->permission op, and those can be
> >> as expensive as they like (within reason of course).
> > 
> > Weird if the expense of a second permission call is significant compared
> > to following the mkdir and sync.  But, what do I know.
> > 
> > --b.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-08 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-08  1:47 Oleg Drokin
2016-07-08 11:02 ` Jeff Layton
2016-07-08 15:14   ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-08 15:53     ` Jeff Layton
2016-07-08 15:59       ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-08 16:17         ` Jeff Layton
2016-07-08 16:28           ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-09  2:52         ` Al Viro
2016-07-09  2:58           ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-09  3:13             ` Al Viro
2016-07-08 16:04       ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-08 16:16         ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-08 20:49           ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2016-07-08 21:47             ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-09  3:10               ` Al Viro
2016-07-09  3:41                 ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-13 19:00                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-08 20:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-08 21:53   ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-21 20:34     ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-21 20:37       ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-22  1:57         ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22  6:35           ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-22 10:55             ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22 15:13               ` Oleg Drokin
2016-07-22 17:48                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22 17:48                   ` [PATCH 1/7] nfsd: Make creates return EEXIST instead of EACCES J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22 17:48                   ` [PATCH 2/7] nfsd: remove redundant zero-length check from create J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22 17:48                   ` [PATCH 3/7] nfsd: remove redundant i_lookup check J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-24  0:22                     ` Al Viro
2016-07-24 12:10                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-24 14:23                         ` Al Viro
2016-07-24 20:21                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22 17:48                   ` [PATCH 4/7] nfsd: reorganize nfsd_create J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22 17:48                   ` [PATCH 5/7] nfsd: remove unnecessary positive-dentry check J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22 17:48                   ` [PATCH 6/7] nfsd: clean up bad-type check in nfsd_create_locked J. Bruce Fields
2016-07-22 17:48                   ` [PATCH 7/7] nfsd: drop unnecessary MAY_EXEC check from create J. Bruce Fields

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