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From: Michael Holzheu <holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ming Lei <tom.leiming@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Yasuaki Ishimatsu <isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [bisected] "sched: Allow per-cpu kernel threads to run on online && !active" causes warning
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:20:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160817112047.7d1705d8@TP-holzheu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160816221953.GA3373@osiris>

Am Wed, 17 Aug 2016 00:19:53 +0200
schrieb Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>:

> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:42:05AM -0400, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > Hello, Peter.
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 05:29:49PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:20:27AM -0400, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > > > As long as the mapping doesn't change after the first onlining
> > > > of the CPU, the workqueue side shouldn't be too difficult to
> > > > fix up.  I'll look into it.  For memory allocations, as long as
> > > > the cpu <-> node mapping is established before any memory
> > > > allocation for the cpu takes place, it should be fine too, I
> > > > think.
> > > 
> > > Don't we allocate per-cpu memory for 'cpu_possible_map' on boot?
> > > There's a whole bunch of per-cpu memory users that does things
> > > like:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 	for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) {
> > > 		struct foo *foo = per_cpu_ptr(&per_cpu_var, cpu);
> > > 
> > > 		/* muck with foo */
> > > 	}
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Which requires a cpu->node map for all possible cpus at boot time.
> > 
> > Ah, right.  If cpu -> node mapping is dynamic, there isn't much that
> > we can do about allocating per-cpu memory on the wrong node.  And it
> > is problematic that percpu allocations can race against an onlining
> > CPU switching its node association.
> > 
> > One way to keep the mapping stable would be reserving per-node
> > possible CPU slots so that the CPU number assigned to a new CPU is
> > on the right node.  It'd be a simple solution but would get really
> > expensive with increasing number of nodes.
> > 
> > Heiko, do you have any ideas?
> 
> I think the easiest solution would be to simply assign all cpus, for
> which we do not have any topology information, to an arbitrary node;
> e.g. round robin.
> 
> After all the case that cpus are added later is rare and the s390
> fake numa implementation does not know about the memory topology. All
> it is doing is distributing the memory to several nodes in order to
> avoid a single huge node. So that should be sort of ok.
> 
> Unless somebody has a better idea?
> 
> Michael, Martin?

If it is really required that cpu_to_node() can be called for
all possible cpus this sounds like a reasonable workaround to me.

Michael

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-17  9:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-27 12:54 Heiko Carstens
2016-07-27 15:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-07-30 11:25   ` Heiko Carstens
2016-08-08  7:45     ` Ming Lei
2016-08-15 11:19       ` Heiko Carstens
2016-08-15 22:48         ` Tejun Heo
2016-08-16  7:55           ` Heiko Carstens
2016-08-16 15:20             ` Tejun Heo
2016-08-16 15:29               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-16 15:42                 ` Tejun Heo
2016-08-16 22:19                   ` Heiko Carstens
2016-08-17  9:20                     ` Michael Holzheu [this message]
2016-08-17 13:58                     ` Tejun Heo
2016-08-18  9:30                       ` Michael Holzheu
2016-08-18 14:42                         ` Tejun Heo
2016-08-19  9:52                           ` Michael Holzheu

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